This is ridiculous Frances Leader, all that bullshit about not knowing what happened after I got involved with Nota, you know exactly how it went down, I had fallen out with all of them cos they were supporting Steele, you knew that! You also fell out with me because myself and Lizbeth who were involved were asking you why you would not mention the shit he was up to when you were being interviewed, you called Liz and I all manner of names. You then blocked us both on FB. That was years back and I have been involved in a lot more since then and have clearly retired so get my picture and details off your website, which I might add has taken the same name, (Annielogical Uncensored). So stop making out like we are buddies, I do not like or trust you.
Hi, i think your last you tube video from 5mth ago on water pollution was very informative. I can't understand why your website www.vigiliae.org directs us to journalism training courses, if you could expand it would be very much appreciated, thank you.
Ooh. I think I will leave this here, cos I could have sworn that we had settled that minor dispute. Clearly I was wrong. I couldn't find any website called Annielogical Uncensored (quite a coincidence to use the same word, but I am sure we are not alone in that!). I am surprised to hear that you are 'retired' - it never crossed my mind that retirement from activism was even possible.
Unfortunately posts on Substack cannot be deleted, so I cannot remove it now.
Yep. But it raises another..... Why would a long term 'activist' suddenly retire and deactivate a fantastic website, loaded with an enormous amount of vital research and links, painstakingly gathered over many years? I wanted to get in touch with Annie because I was concerned that I could not find her work. I was curious to see what she has unearthed recently.
I don't understand the hostility. It is all a bit weird.
I do try to read every article you direct me to, however in certain cases the subject matter may be one that is very familiar to me, in which case I will skim rather than read.
It's true that my education while in the sciences is definitely biased towards physical and computational sciences.
My background is in computational data analysis, however I have done small stints of work in biology and virology related fields. I was originally drawn to Mark Steele because of his unsupported claims that 5G was the cause of the pandemic. I avoid discussing pandemic-related topics on YT because the content-filter mostly forbids it.
Steele says a bunch of other things as well, but I am sufficiently versed in the mainstream perspectives of this science to know that Mark Steele speaks from something other than expertise.
> The cumulative effect of electro-magnetic radiation seems to have slipped over your head. Perhaps read the article I shared about the Heathrow worker in greater depth?
But as I've argued in my previous response - the frequency bands which are allocated to 5G were previously used by analogue television at much higher powers. When Analogue TV stopped, the huge transmitters were shut down and replaced with a multitude of tiny transmitters.
Why would a reduction in transmission power in the 700Mhz band result in an increased cumulative effect? People who live near 100 Kilowatt TV transmitters would have experienced a very strong signal in the 700Mhz band. Why would that be less dangerous than a signal a thousand times weaker that came from a 100W sector antenna of a 5G tower?
If the cumulative effect of radiation was the cause of COVID then wouldn't we expect higher levels of disease nearer to big transmitters? We do see geographical differences in disease prevalence, but they mostly correlate with chemical environment pollution - e.g. proximity to busy roads and unfortunately proximity to industry, for example chemical plants and fracking.
Yes, that is the standard obfuscation ruse that engineers like to cite. Seen it, been there, got the t-shirt and shredded it....
Look. I have been very patient with you. It is clear that you suffer from cognitive dissonance or you are paid to be a gatekeeper. I don't care which it is. All I know is you are trying to waste my time on the busiest day online.
Watch this video - then you might get a clue but somehow I doubt it.
You keep referring to the shill Mark Steele. He is crazy, I am sure you know that. He is not respectful towards me in any way. I am not answerable to his madness and I am certainly not in his 'club' so quit associating me with him please.
In April of 2020 a Spanish doctor produced this study which shows the correlations, geographical and chronological, between the roll out of 5G and Covid19 hot-spots.
I have, unfortunately observed this trend continuing worldwide. It is a great tragedy.
Important book free to download from the late Professor Yuri G. Grigoriev
Translated and adapted by the ORSAA* translation team
Professor Yuri G. Grigoriev (PhD, DMedSci) 1925-2021 Chief Scientific Officer, Laboratory of Radiobiology and Hygiene of Non-Ionizing Radiation, Burnasyan Federal Medical Biophysical Center of the Federal Medical Biological Agency (Russia); Academician, Academy of Electro-Technical Sciences (Russia); Deputy Chair, Bureau of Radiobiology, Russian Academy of Sciences; member of the WHO Advisory Committee (International EMF Project); Member of the Russian Scientific Commission on Radiation Protection; Member of the Russian National Committee on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection; Member of the International Commission for Electromagnetic Safety.
Foreword by ORSAA (Oceania Radiofrequency Scientific Advisory Association) This book brings a timely warning message to a world intent on further densification of background artificial electromagnetic fields (EMFs) to the point of saturating the planet. The current level of human-made EMF already sits at a quintillion (1018) times the earth’s natural background levels. These levels continue to rise in spite of very limited biological testing and the many warnings from independent scientists over the last five decades. Ubiquitous 5G is now to be added to the existing 3G and 4G systems, covering the earth and sky, and invading the ionosphere. Artificial radiofrequency (RF) radiation has already been shown to be a potentially carcinogenic agent, damaging to DNA and creating many other biological and health effects.
ORSAA has assisted with the translation and revision of this book with a view to understanding the reasoning behind the Russian precautionary approach to the roll-out of wireless technology. Sadly, one of the authors, Professor Yuri Grigoriev, a giant in the science of Radiobiology, passed away in the midst of the translation and revision of the book. Over the past seven decades, Professor Grigoriev orchestrated many largescale experiments and practical projects in ionizing and non-ionizing radiation science and protection. The output of this work has been used in health care, medical science, the military, and in space research. Grigoriev’s breadth and depth of understanding of the interactions between biology and physics should not be ignored by governments, telecommunications engineers or social scientists charged with responsible decision making in this matter. ORSAA has considered it both an honour and a duty to complete this project, in fulfilment of his urgent wishes.
Professor Grigoriev was privy to many decades of research regarding non-ionizing radiation in Russia and the Eastern bloc countries. The reader is herein given access and insight into results from these studies. It becomes clearer with each turn of the page that these research results corroborate and amplify the many warning messages of biological harm revealed in the enormous database of scientific studies already available to the vi West, from military studies beginning in the 70s to sound biophysics of the 80s, and decades of independent research from universities and other institutions.
In these pages the authors describe the biophysics of exposures to EMF using clear explanations and solid logic. The industry premise that 5G millimetre waves (which are characterized by complex modulations) will only be absorbed in the skin and thereby only increase surface heating, is revealed to be shallow and false. As the book explains, the skin is a major critical organ of the body when it comes to millimetre wave exposures. It is rich in nerves, and innervated by the peripheral nervous system, including the autonomic nervous system. The skin is also the body’s first line of defence against chemical or mechanical assault. Concerns are also raised for the cornea and sclera of the eyes, for which there is no current relevant experimental data.
The many decades of work in Russia and Eastern bloc countries on bio-resonance have provided a qualitative shift in understanding the interactions between MMW signals and human systems. Use of bio-resonance as a framework has allowed for the integration of seemingly puzzling results from various corners such as the discovery of amplitude and frequency “windows” and non-linear dose-response characteristics. Both experimental and theoretical work regarding bio-resonance is reviewed within this text. Included in this work is evidence for mechanisms in the body and the immune system that specifically recognise various forms of MMW radiation. These systems are changed as a result of their interactions with MMWs, and moreover, they accumulate bioeffects.
These bio-resonance findings provide principles of immense significance for better understanding of the immune system and human sensitivity to EMFs. Such principles are now being developed in Western medicine and safety science; e.g., Geesink and Meijer (2020) have used bio-resonance and quantum coherence in order to provide a framework for explaining why experimentally observed effects are dependent on frequency bands and power density. A better understanding of bio-resonance could assist microwave technology to move out from the currently unhealthy situation and into safer, more bio-compatible systems. Exploration of bio-resonance effects may also open up new methods for healing, thereby creating a qualitative shift in medical science.
The authors have taken an approach to radiation protection that prioritises the health and safety of the population, including more vulnerable exposure groups such as children. vii The Russian scientists point out that our current exposures to RF, although deemed by western authorities to be “low-power”, are ongoing, 24 hours per day, seven days a week, and are biologically active. Therefore, these anthropogenic electromagnetic energy exposures cannot be considered to be risk free, particularly for more vulnerable population groups. Their approach is in stark contrast to the approach taken by ICNIRP, FCC (US), and ARPANSA (Australia). Unfortunately for humankind, these organizations, which are responsible for our protection, require conclusive proof of harm before they will acknowledge the risks. The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) is a self-appointed non-governmental agency, which stands accused of having major conflicts of interest, and where the membership selection process is shrouded in secrecy. ICNIRP continues to ignore long-term non-thermal bioeffects in setting their guidelines, and it is these guidelines that are used in the West to set global standards which have allowed industry to proceed unencumbered by any real safety regulations.
We gratefully acknowledge the academic and organizational work of ORSAA’s retired radiation health physicist, Victor Leach, as well as the team of editors and other professionals who have worked tirelessly to bring this revised and translated version of the original Russian book to fruition. We recommend this text as an enlightening read for those concerned with the health implications of man-made microwave radiation, including 5G signals. ORSAA, 2021
From what I can tell, Telegram is an unregulated free for all, but it's where all the conspiracy theory groups are so it's where I need to be.
I think Mark Steele isn't the only person who brought the anti-5G groups into comical disrepute. What about Michael Mansfield and the lawyers behind Legal Action Against 5g? They massively overhyped the chances of a case which was dismissed for an utter failure to present evidence.
There's the FB community lead by that Bristol naturopath (I forget her name), but I used to refer to her as The Queen Bee of 5G concern trolls, who also peddaled bizarre false hope.
Folks like Piers Corbyn who staked what little of his scientific reputation remained on the claim that 5G was actually up where the modifying laser ray gun.
Who could forget? John kitson, Sasha Stone, and their friend, the creepy former politician who believed that he was the child of aliens, all of which profited by selling a 5G talisman that happened to look exactly like a $2 USB stick. That device was sold for over 300 pounds.
there are so many ludicrous grifters in the world of the anti-5G conspiracy movement. it's my theory that the leaders of this movement were never really concerned with health or human well-being. it was always an only about selling products.
shungite pyramids. organ deflectors. wacky radionic devices that promised to nullify harmful radiation and replace it only with beneficial radiation. The leaders of the anti-5G movement were all making money.
Mark still was no exception to this other. the reason why I chose to focus on him was that he makes a lot of videos and they're generally quite funny, unintentionally. it was Mark's complete lack of self-awareness and utter rudeness that drove me to make videos about him.
None of those people fully understood the grass roots concerns and all of them, at different times did their very best to 'lead' the movement. Unfortunately every one of them was leading the movement into a ridiculous line of belief rather than making any genuine attempt to research and verify that there are indeed lots of concerns about electro-magnetic radiation.
I have compiled a pair of archives since 2016 consisting of studies, reports, opinions, videos and books. Please feel free to browse, you may find that there are a lot of very serious scientific minds who are quietly opposing 5G and beyond. We are the REAL movement and no, we do not use shungite or any other wacky devices.
Your suspicions about Michael Mansfield KC are well founded and I have been highly disappointed with their gatekeeping exercise. They have delayed and delayed and failed us at every turn. I suspect this was deliberate, as is the case with Mark Steele who, I am certain is a paid controller of the opposition. Ann Marie Carey discovered that he was involved with the EU and that was why I wanted to get in touch with her again. I needed sight of those papers that she found.
I have been an activist for 55 years, Raynard. EVERY SINGLE CAMPAIGN has been fraught with undercover cops and alphabetti agents. It is how they mess with us, cause us to be ignored by the public and, above all, they disrupt our campaigns by taking over leadership roles when in actual fact they are not leaders at all - we don't have leaders.
I think the real reason why the anti-5G movement failed and will always continue failing is that they have never been able to articulate a feature in 5G that was not present in 4G that presents some potential harm.
My own view on 5G is that it is virtually the same thing as 4G.
there are indeed some differences but they are vanishingly small. for example, 5G uses a larger number of lower power transmitters. This means that even though the transmitters are individually less capable, the network as a whole can handle larger numbers of connected users. that's often referred to as densification.
5g also changes the way the signal is encoded in the radio signal. even if the radio signal remains very similar to the 4G era, the way it is used is more effective. once again the point is to get more signals into limited bandwidth. This benefits the telephone companies because they can serve more users and it usually also benefits the consumer because you're more likely to get a useful signal.
I'm sure we're going to come to disagreement on this because as you can tell, i'm generally in favor of 5g. from my perspective, 5G is nothing other than the current generation of phone network. it's been deployed in the UK since 2018 and it hasn't harmed anyone, at least as far as I know.
I haven't seen anybody come up with sensible objections to 5g that are specific to 5g. I know there are some people who object to the amount of electromagnetic radiation in general and they feel that 5G is bad because it simply adds to an existing smog. but that's a general and non-specific objection that doesn't carry any weight in any court or legal action.
Note: I am far from alone and most of the elder Anti-Fracking campaigners are now dead from cancer, emphysema and related sudden onset illnesses.
As a Barefoot Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine I have been consulted by numerous people who suffer debilitating and cumulative ill effects from electro-magnetic radiation.
Some people have found that health eludes them completely unless they can get off grid and as far away as possible from the ubiquitous electro-magnetic disturbances caused by modern wireless telecoms.
I am happy to assist you to understand the full story because it is evident that you focus on the technological and completely ignore the medical impacts which have been known about since WW2.
Further understanding would require you to undertake a less sceptical point of view and learn some facts from experts in the field such as Yuri Grigoriev and Prof Martin Pall.
I find it offensive that you did not choose to actually delve into my extensive archives. Don't imagine that I am a controlled opposition operative, such as those you have already considered to be 'leaders' in our campaign.
Put it this way, Mr Wilson, I am a TRUE Leader, NOT ONLY BY NAME, and you have not heard of me in all the time that you have been pussy-footing around with the government sponsored fakers.
That indicates a very lax attitude to research, wouldn't you think?
I had a quick scan of your texts. Am I correct to understand that you believe that you have been harmed by electromagnetic radiation in general, and not 5G specifically?
If i have understood you correctly, it sounds like you have also been exposed to some kind of environmental pollution which has caused life-long harm, and this was related to your anti-fracking campaign.
I don't want to engage in a heated debate on all of the wide range of topics that you just brought up, but I do want to focus in on one thing. If it's your belief that non-ionizing radiation from phone systems is producing or exacerbating a medical condition you have then you ought to be happy about 5G.
The reason is that 5G uses more precise, lower-powered antenna that are able to target the signal where it is needed. By contrast, the 2G and 3G-era antenna which are mostly decommissioned are intended to cover a wide area by blasting out a signal uniformly.
4G and 5G uses frequencies that wre previously reserved for services like analogue TV. I live near Alexandra Palace. That station housed a transmitter for BBC TV which would have put out a signal in the 700-800Mhz. The signal would have been approximately 100 kilowatts ERP, which really would be enough to fry somebody if you had been unfortunate enough to stand in front of an active antenna.
These days, the most powerful antenna we have on that band is about 100w, so a thousand times less powerful. If you happened to live near Alexandra Palace (as I do), your signal exposure in that band would be greatly decreased by the reallocation of these frequencies from alaogue TV to mobile comms.
In other words, I'm showing you that 5G didn't really add to the "electrosmog", it replaced something that was a great deal worse.
The anti 5G campaigners often argued that what was wrong with 5G was the "new frequencies", but if you bother to check the allocation tables you will see there are no new frequencies. There are the same old frequencies, that are now used in more considerate and energy efficient ways by the new systems.
Until you learn to investigate the physical impacts of all forms of electrical innovations you will forever be oblivious of the extreme damage that has been done over the recent century or so.
I've seen that chart a number of times before: The chart alleges that COVID is actually caused by the activation of the 5G network. Is that what you actually think?
Why would the activation of 5G in 2018 cause a pandemic from 2019 to 2021?
Hi Ann, are you aware that Mark Steele mentioned you in a recent YT video in which he aired a number of grievances about people who may have disagreed with him in public:
I'm interested to get your side of the story for my own YT channel (Mind of Steele), which as you may have guessed reports on the crazy sayings and doings of Mark Steele.
Ann-Marie Carey is not a regular here on Substack. She wants to retire from the 5G scene and I have respected that. I doubt if she will reply to you here.
Thanks for letting me know. I'm certainly not retired from the "5G Scene" - it's as fascinating to me as it ever was, more so that Mark Steele continues his completely ludicrous campaign of conspiracy theories.
I have just watched several of your videos and giggled a lot. I especially enjoyed the one with two engineers trying to figure out what Sabrina Wallace is saying! That was hilarious and reflected my own confusion exactly - and I am only a normie domestic engineer, admittedly with 60-odd years experience!
Thanks for taking on Mark Steele!
He gave Annie Logical and I a lot of grief when he first muscled in on our campaign about 5G. He and his cronies were super abusive and offensive especially when we revealed to the public that his claim to be a weapons expert was based on developing one helmet with built in comms for the Israeli military. When we suggested that this was in fact a product from Graham Steele's hand rather than Mark's - we were worse than Satanists, we were witches, whores and liars simultaneously! No mean feat! 🤣😂
Hi Frances, I suspect we may not agree on many aspects of the 5G discussion, however I am delighted that you enjoyed the show. Please subscribe - there's much more to come.
There's also a telegram community that's the best place to help with Steele research if you have any perspectives you wish to share.
I have subscribed because I like your practical approach to the subject matter and I do think that Mark Steele has been the kiss of death to our genuine concerns about 5G. He has brought the campaign into disrepute in the same way that he is now doing to the Bladerunners of Ulez fame.
I do not use telegram because I noticed that people are getting busted for things they write there. It seems a little too monitored for my liking and also seems to be full of fanatics and fear porn.
I have genuine concerns about electro-magnetic radiation due to my understanding of chi (qi) - the body energy explained within traditional Chinese Medicine.
I re-visited ~Mark Steele Today which Annie covered extensively. I could not find her fantastic library of knowledge either and ‘her’ comment to you are bizarre?
She was a level headed researcher, always and would explain in great depth her reasons for anything! Where is her answer for her ‘missing library’? Selling her website is not an explanation or even an excuse and she most definitely would not retire! And ‘WHO would buy an ACTIVISTS Website? it’s a ‘Smoke Screen’ to discredit and disappear her!!!
Her most recent posts of a year ago would have been about the acceleration of 5G and the Pilots of ‘Smart Poles’.
Listen to her ‘voice’ from older videos on her original site from five years and then listen to her post on Water.
very strange & weird but if it's any conciliation, everyone of my friends from school and through my 62yrs in this experience have either turned against me or are just not getting back in touch and I like yourself I have been trying to wake folks up for ever it would seem and prior to this shit show we're going through now, I had some gigs come in recently and the jabbed players bar one stood around acting sheepish and my co-writer was lying by omission about pre-booked gigs in the book because he had other work in and I missed out on earnings, when I mention anything about corruption and governments/councils conspiring internationally (Agenda 21-30-50 etc.) or any conspiracy's, all I get are comments like "same old Dave" "you've no changed" (which one would have thought a good thing) but They have changed dramatically and I just don't know them anymore and can't play with them anymore as they are not being true to them selves or me and this of course upsets me but I've came to realise It is I who is the fool, not realising how stupid/indoctrinated they all are (including the majority of the population in the world) and now I understand that I've wasted energy and time on people and it's this that upsets me, I need to protect myself and re-educate myself to be more aware of whom I'm talking to in the future and learn from my mistakes instead of being openly me (a blether) Thankfully I have the best friend and all the friend I'll ever need in my wife of 33yrs. Respect & X 2 All. Dave.
I am hearing similar stories from all the unvaxxed. We have all be ostracised and even insulted. Yesterday I was hearing that some doctors are reporting that their experience of the vaxxed patients is concerning them. Apparently the vaxxed are losing their marbles, Dave. One US Doctor said that it reminded him of lobotomy. It was in a really fascinating discussion here:
Yeah I'd go along with that big time, 3 yrs of this full on multi targeted attack on humanity is fully underway and rather than face the enemy, they comply willingly thinking they will get some respite if they do and they can't see the end game because they have been indoctrinated all their lives, sad really as it will probably come to most of them when it's too late to do anything about it. Respect & X 2 All.
unfortunately I had not heard of this woman or know her location but I wish & hope you will find her soon, on a side note all your emails in my in box are not opening?? all I get is "We couldn't load this message. Please try again later." and had to go on substack to read this, weird why would my existing unopened emails from you not open?? at least I can get access to Sunday in memory lane. Respect & X 2 All.
I am being shadow banned by the Alphabettis.... they don't like what I have to say! Mind you, they haven't liked it since 1961 and that has never slowed me down! Over the weekend I suddenly went viral. I usually get somewhere between 2 & 4 thousand views a day on my posts. On Saturday I topped 155,000 views and on Sunday it was 66,000+! Maybe that was why there was a problem? I was attracting far too much attention for a while there! When it says 'try again later' - that usually signifies too much traffic on a post.
Thanks for taking the time to come to substack and find my posts!
If you look at the pinned comment here you will see a reply from Annie, she was very rude - making me wonder where her head is at these days!
Great illustration of the kind of freedoms stolen from us. I lost 400 international friends on Twitter. Facebook, Twitter, all social media has revealed itself to be an instrument of nothing but the wielding of corporate/government/institutional power and repression. Trusting in some way, some day I will find these 400 friends again.
Lots was lost. I was just getting started and many of those hundreds also had many fellow activists. These things happen in geometric progressions. Each one, teaches one.
I had been building my network for a full decade. In a year on Substack I have a following of only just over 2,000 and most of those were not following me on other social media platforms. The breaking of the network has limited my resources as well as my reach.
These things are sad for certain. This war we are in is expensive and takes a huge toll on each of us for certain. But I can’t help but think perhaps there is a reason we don’t yet fully appreciate. One thing of which I am certain there are no coincidences or accidents. It us up to us to find the connections to whatever truth is to be found. Hopefully go forward. We are still here!
I came across this by searching images. It is the most recent thing I have been able to find apart from the YouTube channel.
https://outofthebagradio.weebly.com/podcasts/podcast-sean-maguire-ann-marie-carey-rebellion-hour-15072020
This is ridiculous Frances Leader, all that bullshit about not knowing what happened after I got involved with Nota, you know exactly how it went down, I had fallen out with all of them cos they were supporting Steele, you knew that! You also fell out with me because myself and Lizbeth who were involved were asking you why you would not mention the shit he was up to when you were being interviewed, you called Liz and I all manner of names. You then blocked us both on FB. That was years back and I have been involved in a lot more since then and have clearly retired so get my picture and details off your website, which I might add has taken the same name, (Annielogical Uncensored). So stop making out like we are buddies, I do not like or trust you.
Hi, i think your last you tube video from 5mth ago on water pollution was very informative. I can't understand why your website www.vigiliae.org directs us to journalism training courses, if you could expand it would be very much appreciated, thank you.
Annie gave up the domain and it was taken over by a new owner.
Thanks for that.
Ooh. I think I will leave this here, cos I could have sworn that we had settled that minor dispute. Clearly I was wrong. I couldn't find any website called Annielogical Uncensored (quite a coincidence to use the same word, but I am sure we are not alone in that!). I am surprised to hear that you are 'retired' - it never crossed my mind that retirement from activism was even possible.
Unfortunately posts on Substack cannot be deleted, so I cannot remove it now.
Sorry about that.
Oh, dear. Well... That's one mystery solved... O_O
Yep. But it raises another..... Why would a long term 'activist' suddenly retire and deactivate a fantastic website, loaded with an enormous amount of vital research and links, painstakingly gathered over many years? I wanted to get in touch with Annie because I was concerned that I could not find her work. I was curious to see what she has unearthed recently.
I don't understand the hostility. It is all a bit weird.
Maybe that wasn't actually HER. I couldn't say, but I see your point. Weird.
I do try to read every article you direct me to, however in certain cases the subject matter may be one that is very familiar to me, in which case I will skim rather than read.
It's true that my education while in the sciences is definitely biased towards physical and computational sciences.
My background is in computational data analysis, however I have done small stints of work in biology and virology related fields. I was originally drawn to Mark Steele because of his unsupported claims that 5G was the cause of the pandemic. I avoid discussing pandemic-related topics on YT because the content-filter mostly forbids it.
Steele says a bunch of other things as well, but I am sufficiently versed in the mainstream perspectives of this science to know that Mark Steele speaks from something other than expertise.
> The cumulative effect of electro-magnetic radiation seems to have slipped over your head. Perhaps read the article I shared about the Heathrow worker in greater depth?
But as I've argued in my previous response - the frequency bands which are allocated to 5G were previously used by analogue television at much higher powers. When Analogue TV stopped, the huge transmitters were shut down and replaced with a multitude of tiny transmitters.
Why would a reduction in transmission power in the 700Mhz band result in an increased cumulative effect? People who live near 100 Kilowatt TV transmitters would have experienced a very strong signal in the 700Mhz band. Why would that be less dangerous than a signal a thousand times weaker that came from a 100W sector antenna of a 5G tower?
If the cumulative effect of radiation was the cause of COVID then wouldn't we expect higher levels of disease nearer to big transmitters? We do see geographical differences in disease prevalence, but they mostly correlate with chemical environment pollution - e.g. proximity to busy roads and unfortunately proximity to industry, for example chemical plants and fracking.
Yes, that is the standard obfuscation ruse that engineers like to cite. Seen it, been there, got the t-shirt and shredded it....
Look. I have been very patient with you. It is clear that you suffer from cognitive dissonance or you are paid to be a gatekeeper. I don't care which it is. All I know is you are trying to waste my time on the busiest day online.
Watch this video - then you might get a clue but somehow I doubt it.
https://medicaltruthpodcast.substack.com/p/the-biological-dangers-of-5g-and-3be
Also, this document may help you to understand how dangerous EM really is:
https://archive.org/details/thomas-bearden-gravitobiology-a-new-biophysics/page/12/mode/1up
You keep referring to the shill Mark Steele. He is crazy, I am sure you know that. He is not respectful towards me in any way. I am not answerable to his madness and I am certainly not in his 'club' so quit associating me with him please.
In April of 2020 a Spanish doctor produced this study which shows the correlations, geographical and chronological, between the roll out of 5G and Covid19 hot-spots.
I have, unfortunately observed this trend continuing worldwide. It is a great tragedy.
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=12846
FINALLY:
https://www.radiationresearch.org/news/frequencies-used-in-telecommunications-an-integrated-radiobiological-assessment/
FREQUENCIES USED IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS
An Integrated Radiobiological Assessment
Important book free to download from the late Professor Yuri G. Grigoriev
Translated and adapted by the ORSAA* translation team
Professor Yuri G. Grigoriev (PhD, DMedSci) 1925-2021 Chief Scientific Officer, Laboratory of Radiobiology and Hygiene of Non-Ionizing Radiation, Burnasyan Federal Medical Biophysical Center of the Federal Medical Biological Agency (Russia); Academician, Academy of Electro-Technical Sciences (Russia); Deputy Chair, Bureau of Radiobiology, Russian Academy of Sciences; member of the WHO Advisory Committee (International EMF Project); Member of the Russian Scientific Commission on Radiation Protection; Member of the Russian National Committee on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection; Member of the International Commission for Electromagnetic Safety.
Foreword by ORSAA (Oceania Radiofrequency Scientific Advisory Association) This book brings a timely warning message to a world intent on further densification of background artificial electromagnetic fields (EMFs) to the point of saturating the planet. The current level of human-made EMF already sits at a quintillion (1018) times the earth’s natural background levels. These levels continue to rise in spite of very limited biological testing and the many warnings from independent scientists over the last five decades. Ubiquitous 5G is now to be added to the existing 3G and 4G systems, covering the earth and sky, and invading the ionosphere. Artificial radiofrequency (RF) radiation has already been shown to be a potentially carcinogenic agent, damaging to DNA and creating many other biological and health effects.
ORSAA has assisted with the translation and revision of this book with a view to understanding the reasoning behind the Russian precautionary approach to the roll-out of wireless technology. Sadly, one of the authors, Professor Yuri Grigoriev, a giant in the science of Radiobiology, passed away in the midst of the translation and revision of the book. Over the past seven decades, Professor Grigoriev orchestrated many largescale experiments and practical projects in ionizing and non-ionizing radiation science and protection. The output of this work has been used in health care, medical science, the military, and in space research. Grigoriev’s breadth and depth of understanding of the interactions between biology and physics should not be ignored by governments, telecommunications engineers or social scientists charged with responsible decision making in this matter. ORSAA has considered it both an honour and a duty to complete this project, in fulfilment of his urgent wishes.
Professor Grigoriev was privy to many decades of research regarding non-ionizing radiation in Russia and the Eastern bloc countries. The reader is herein given access and insight into results from these studies. It becomes clearer with each turn of the page that these research results corroborate and amplify the many warning messages of biological harm revealed in the enormous database of scientific studies already available to the vi West, from military studies beginning in the 70s to sound biophysics of the 80s, and decades of independent research from universities and other institutions.
In these pages the authors describe the biophysics of exposures to EMF using clear explanations and solid logic. The industry premise that 5G millimetre waves (which are characterized by complex modulations) will only be absorbed in the skin and thereby only increase surface heating, is revealed to be shallow and false. As the book explains, the skin is a major critical organ of the body when it comes to millimetre wave exposures. It is rich in nerves, and innervated by the peripheral nervous system, including the autonomic nervous system. The skin is also the body’s first line of defence against chemical or mechanical assault. Concerns are also raised for the cornea and sclera of the eyes, for which there is no current relevant experimental data.
The many decades of work in Russia and Eastern bloc countries on bio-resonance have provided a qualitative shift in understanding the interactions between MMW signals and human systems. Use of bio-resonance as a framework has allowed for the integration of seemingly puzzling results from various corners such as the discovery of amplitude and frequency “windows” and non-linear dose-response characteristics. Both experimental and theoretical work regarding bio-resonance is reviewed within this text. Included in this work is evidence for mechanisms in the body and the immune system that specifically recognise various forms of MMW radiation. These systems are changed as a result of their interactions with MMWs, and moreover, they accumulate bioeffects.
These bio-resonance findings provide principles of immense significance for better understanding of the immune system and human sensitivity to EMFs. Such principles are now being developed in Western medicine and safety science; e.g., Geesink and Meijer (2020) have used bio-resonance and quantum coherence in order to provide a framework for explaining why experimentally observed effects are dependent on frequency bands and power density. A better understanding of bio-resonance could assist microwave technology to move out from the currently unhealthy situation and into safer, more bio-compatible systems. Exploration of bio-resonance effects may also open up new methods for healing, thereby creating a qualitative shift in medical science.
The authors have taken an approach to radiation protection that prioritises the health and safety of the population, including more vulnerable exposure groups such as children. vii The Russian scientists point out that our current exposures to RF, although deemed by western authorities to be “low-power”, are ongoing, 24 hours per day, seven days a week, and are biologically active. Therefore, these anthropogenic electromagnetic energy exposures cannot be considered to be risk free, particularly for more vulnerable population groups. Their approach is in stark contrast to the approach taken by ICNIRP, FCC (US), and ARPANSA (Australia). Unfortunately for humankind, these organizations, which are responsible for our protection, require conclusive proof of harm before they will acknowledge the risks. The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) is a self-appointed non-governmental agency, which stands accused of having major conflicts of interest, and where the membership selection process is shrouded in secrecy. ICNIRP continues to ignore long-term non-thermal bioeffects in setting their guidelines, and it is these guidelines that are used in the West to set global standards which have allowed industry to proceed unencumbered by any real safety regulations.
We gratefully acknowledge the academic and organizational work of ORSAA’s retired radiation health physicist, Victor Leach, as well as the team of editors and other professionals who have worked tirelessly to bring this revised and translated version of the original Russian book to fruition. We recommend this text as an enlightening read for those concerned with the health implications of man-made microwave radiation, including 5G signals. ORSAA, 2021
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From what I can tell, Telegram is an unregulated free for all, but it's where all the conspiracy theory groups are so it's where I need to be.
I think Mark Steele isn't the only person who brought the anti-5G groups into comical disrepute. What about Michael Mansfield and the lawyers behind Legal Action Against 5g? They massively overhyped the chances of a case which was dismissed for an utter failure to present evidence.
There's the FB community lead by that Bristol naturopath (I forget her name), but I used to refer to her as The Queen Bee of 5G concern trolls, who also peddaled bizarre false hope.
Folks like Piers Corbyn who staked what little of his scientific reputation remained on the claim that 5G was actually up where the modifying laser ray gun.
Who could forget? John kitson, Sasha Stone, and their friend, the creepy former politician who believed that he was the child of aliens, all of which profited by selling a 5G talisman that happened to look exactly like a $2 USB stick. That device was sold for over 300 pounds.
there are so many ludicrous grifters in the world of the anti-5G conspiracy movement. it's my theory that the leaders of this movement were never really concerned with health or human well-being. it was always an only about selling products.
shungite pyramids. organ deflectors. wacky radionic devices that promised to nullify harmful radiation and replace it only with beneficial radiation. The leaders of the anti-5G movement were all making money.
Mark still was no exception to this other. the reason why I chose to focus on him was that he makes a lot of videos and they're generally quite funny, unintentionally. it was Mark's complete lack of self-awareness and utter rudeness that drove me to make videos about him.
Yep, agreed on all mentions and points.
None of those people fully understood the grass roots concerns and all of them, at different times did their very best to 'lead' the movement. Unfortunately every one of them was leading the movement into a ridiculous line of belief rather than making any genuine attempt to research and verify that there are indeed lots of concerns about electro-magnetic radiation.
I have compiled a pair of archives since 2016 consisting of studies, reports, opinions, videos and books. Please feel free to browse, you may find that there are a lot of very serious scientific minds who are quietly opposing 5G and beyond. We are the REAL movement and no, we do not use shungite or any other wacky devices.
Your suspicions about Michael Mansfield KC are well founded and I have been highly disappointed with their gatekeeping exercise. They have delayed and delayed and failed us at every turn. I suspect this was deliberate, as is the case with Mark Steele who, I am certain is a paid controller of the opposition. Ann Marie Carey discovered that he was involved with the EU and that was why I wanted to get in touch with her again. I needed sight of those papers that she found.
I have been an activist for 55 years, Raynard. EVERY SINGLE CAMPAIGN has been fraught with undercover cops and alphabetti agents. It is how they mess with us, cause us to be ignored by the public and, above all, they disrupt our campaigns by taking over leadership roles when in actual fact they are not leaders at all - we don't have leaders.
Here is your access point to my archives:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/all-my-substack-articles-on-emfc19
I think the real reason why the anti-5G movement failed and will always continue failing is that they have never been able to articulate a feature in 5G that was not present in 4G that presents some potential harm.
My own view on 5G is that it is virtually the same thing as 4G.
there are indeed some differences but they are vanishingly small. for example, 5G uses a larger number of lower power transmitters. This means that even though the transmitters are individually less capable, the network as a whole can handle larger numbers of connected users. that's often referred to as densification.
5g also changes the way the signal is encoded in the radio signal. even if the radio signal remains very similar to the 4G era, the way it is used is more effective. once again the point is to get more signals into limited bandwidth. This benefits the telephone companies because they can serve more users and it usually also benefits the consumer because you're more likely to get a useful signal.
I'm sure we're going to come to disagreement on this because as you can tell, i'm generally in favor of 5g. from my perspective, 5G is nothing other than the current generation of phone network. it's been deployed in the UK since 2018 and it hasn't harmed anyone, at least as far as I know.
I haven't seen anybody come up with sensible objections to 5g that are specific to 5g. I know there are some people who object to the amount of electromagnetic radiation in general and they feel that 5G is bad because it simply adds to an existing smog. but that's a general and non-specific objection that doesn't carry any weight in any court or legal action.
"it's been deployed in the UK since 2018 and it hasn't harmed anyone, at least as far as I know."
Therein lies the deception you allow to limit your understanding.
I know of a great many people who have been harmed by "the amount of electromagnetic radiation in general" - myself included.
I was first impacted in 2013. You can read exactly what has happened to me here: https://francesleader.substack.com/p/trying-to-heal-overview
Note: I am far from alone and most of the elder Anti-Fracking campaigners are now dead from cancer, emphysema and related sudden onset illnesses.
As a Barefoot Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine I have been consulted by numerous people who suffer debilitating and cumulative ill effects from electro-magnetic radiation.
Some people have found that health eludes them completely unless they can get off grid and as far away as possible from the ubiquitous electro-magnetic disturbances caused by modern wireless telecoms.
Here is my useful report of one such victim: https://francesleader.substack.com/p/long-covid-electro-magnetic-stress
I am happy to assist you to understand the full story because it is evident that you focus on the technological and completely ignore the medical impacts which have been known about since WW2.
Further understanding would require you to undertake a less sceptical point of view and learn some facts from experts in the field such as Yuri Grigoriev and Prof Martin Pall.
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/the-cold-war-of-electro-magnetic
https://theemfguy.s3.amazonaws.com/EMF_Hazards/2302%20-%202nd%20Edition/Interviews/1-dr_pall/SafetyGuidelineFraud.pdf
I find it offensive that you did not choose to actually delve into my extensive archives. Don't imagine that I am a controlled opposition operative, such as those you have already considered to be 'leaders' in our campaign.
Put it this way, Mr Wilson, I am a TRUE Leader, NOT ONLY BY NAME, and you have not heard of me in all the time that you have been pussy-footing around with the government sponsored fakers.
That indicates a very lax attitude to research, wouldn't you think?
I had a quick scan of your texts. Am I correct to understand that you believe that you have been harmed by electromagnetic radiation in general, and not 5G specifically?
If i have understood you correctly, it sounds like you have also been exposed to some kind of environmental pollution which has caused life-long harm, and this was related to your anti-fracking campaign.
I don't want to engage in a heated debate on all of the wide range of topics that you just brought up, but I do want to focus in on one thing. If it's your belief that non-ionizing radiation from phone systems is producing or exacerbating a medical condition you have then you ought to be happy about 5G.
The reason is that 5G uses more precise, lower-powered antenna that are able to target the signal where it is needed. By contrast, the 2G and 3G-era antenna which are mostly decommissioned are intended to cover a wide area by blasting out a signal uniformly.
4G and 5G uses frequencies that wre previously reserved for services like analogue TV. I live near Alexandra Palace. That station housed a transmitter for BBC TV which would have put out a signal in the 700-800Mhz. The signal would have been approximately 100 kilowatts ERP, which really would be enough to fry somebody if you had been unfortunate enough to stand in front of an active antenna.
These days, the most powerful antenna we have on that band is about 100w, so a thousand times less powerful. If you happened to live near Alexandra Palace (as I do), your signal exposure in that band would be greatly decreased by the reallocation of these frequencies from alaogue TV to mobile comms.
In other words, I'm showing you that 5G didn't really add to the "electrosmog", it replaced something that was a great deal worse.
The anti 5G campaigners often argued that what was wrong with 5G was the "new frequencies", but if you bother to check the allocation tables you will see there are no new frequencies. There are the same old frequencies, that are now used in more considerate and energy efficient ways by the new systems.
Until you learn to investigate the physical impacts of all forms of electrical innovations you will forever be oblivious of the extreme damage that has been done over the recent century or so.
In this article you will discover a chart which shows radio frequency and electromagnetic frequency advances and correlating epidemics and pandemics: https://francesleader.substack.com/p/there-is-no-virus-there-is-no-lab
I've seen that chart a number of times before: The chart alleges that COVID is actually caused by the activation of the 5G network. Is that what you actually think?
Why would the activation of 5G in 2018 cause a pandemic from 2019 to 2021?
Hi Ann, are you aware that Mark Steele mentioned you in a recent YT video in which he aired a number of grievances about people who may have disagreed with him in public:
https://youtu.be/mwOYq29EjYU?si=wRW8NYicCka4mmoi&t=497
I'm interested to get your side of the story for my own YT channel (Mind of Steele), which as you may have guessed reports on the crazy sayings and doings of Mark Steele.
Ann-Marie Carey is not a regular here on Substack. She wants to retire from the 5G scene and I have respected that. I doubt if she will reply to you here.
Thanks for letting me know. I'm certainly not retired from the "5G Scene" - it's as fascinating to me as it ever was, more so that Mark Steele continues his completely ludicrous campaign of conspiracy theories.
I have just watched several of your videos and giggled a lot. I especially enjoyed the one with two engineers trying to figure out what Sabrina Wallace is saying! That was hilarious and reflected my own confusion exactly - and I am only a normie domestic engineer, admittedly with 60-odd years experience!
Thanks for taking on Mark Steele!
He gave Annie Logical and I a lot of grief when he first muscled in on our campaign about 5G. He and his cronies were super abusive and offensive especially when we revealed to the public that his claim to be a weapons expert was based on developing one helmet with built in comms for the Israeli military. When we suggested that this was in fact a product from Graham Steele's hand rather than Mark's - we were worse than Satanists, we were witches, whores and liars simultaneously! No mean feat! 🤣😂
Hi Frances, I suspect we may not agree on many aspects of the 5G discussion, however I am delighted that you enjoyed the show. Please subscribe - there's much more to come.
There's also a telegram community that's the best place to help with Steele research if you have any perspectives you wish to share.
I have subscribed because I like your practical approach to the subject matter and I do think that Mark Steele has been the kiss of death to our genuine concerns about 5G. He has brought the campaign into disrepute in the same way that he is now doing to the Bladerunners of Ulez fame.
I do not use telegram because I noticed that people are getting busted for things they write there. It seems a little too monitored for my liking and also seems to be full of fanatics and fear porn.
I have genuine concerns about electro-magnetic radiation due to my understanding of chi (qi) - the body energy explained within traditional Chinese Medicine.
I re-visited ~Mark Steele Today which Annie covered extensively. I could not find her fantastic library of knowledge either and ‘her’ comment to you are bizarre?
She was a level headed researcher, always and would explain in great depth her reasons for anything! Where is her answer for her ‘missing library’? Selling her website is not an explanation or even an excuse and she most definitely would not retire! And ‘WHO would buy an ACTIVISTS Website? it’s a ‘Smoke Screen’ to discredit and disappear her!!!
Her most recent posts of a year ago would have been about the acceleration of 5G and the Pilots of ‘Smart Poles’.
Listen to her ‘voice’ from older videos on her original site from five years and then listen to her post on Water.
I don’t think it’s her!!!!!
Plenty of Mark Steele reportage here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_vXwxC2aYOIL6FBylENDw
P.S. OOPS! And Thanks for the link. Respect & X 2 All.Dave
very strange & weird but if it's any conciliation, everyone of my friends from school and through my 62yrs in this experience have either turned against me or are just not getting back in touch and I like yourself I have been trying to wake folks up for ever it would seem and prior to this shit show we're going through now, I had some gigs come in recently and the jabbed players bar one stood around acting sheepish and my co-writer was lying by omission about pre-booked gigs in the book because he had other work in and I missed out on earnings, when I mention anything about corruption and governments/councils conspiring internationally (Agenda 21-30-50 etc.) or any conspiracy's, all I get are comments like "same old Dave" "you've no changed" (which one would have thought a good thing) but They have changed dramatically and I just don't know them anymore and can't play with them anymore as they are not being true to them selves or me and this of course upsets me but I've came to realise It is I who is the fool, not realising how stupid/indoctrinated they all are (including the majority of the population in the world) and now I understand that I've wasted energy and time on people and it's this that upsets me, I need to protect myself and re-educate myself to be more aware of whom I'm talking to in the future and learn from my mistakes instead of being openly me (a blether) Thankfully I have the best friend and all the friend I'll ever need in my wife of 33yrs. Respect & X 2 All. Dave.
I am hearing similar stories from all the unvaxxed. We have all be ostracised and even insulted. Yesterday I was hearing that some doctors are reporting that their experience of the vaxxed patients is concerning them. Apparently the vaxxed are losing their marbles, Dave. One US Doctor said that it reminded him of lobotomy. It was in a really fascinating discussion here:
https://www.brighteon.com/53dea9be-13e1-45f8-89cb-7a4c6c59e33c
Yeah I'd go along with that big time, 3 yrs of this full on multi targeted attack on humanity is fully underway and rather than face the enemy, they comply willingly thinking they will get some respite if they do and they can't see the end game because they have been indoctrinated all their lives, sad really as it will probably come to most of them when it's too late to do anything about it. Respect & X 2 All.
unfortunately I had not heard of this woman or know her location but I wish & hope you will find her soon, on a side note all your emails in my in box are not opening?? all I get is "We couldn't load this message. Please try again later." and had to go on substack to read this, weird why would my existing unopened emails from you not open?? at least I can get access to Sunday in memory lane. Respect & X 2 All.
I am being shadow banned by the Alphabettis.... they don't like what I have to say! Mind you, they haven't liked it since 1961 and that has never slowed me down! Over the weekend I suddenly went viral. I usually get somewhere between 2 & 4 thousand views a day on my posts. On Saturday I topped 155,000 views and on Sunday it was 66,000+! Maybe that was why there was a problem? I was attracting far too much attention for a while there! When it says 'try again later' - that usually signifies too much traffic on a post.
Thanks for taking the time to come to substack and find my posts!
If you look at the pinned comment here you will see a reply from Annie, she was very rude - making me wonder where her head is at these days!
back on track with your subs! re-booted and fiddled aboot but weird how yours was the only one affected in my mailbox. Respect & X 2 All.Dave
This is the last wayback machine archive of the page before the domain name was repossessed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210528101307/https://www.vigiliae.org/
Wow... all the information that was stored on that site has now been completely lost?
Hope she's okay... If you find her, let us know, okay?
xo
Take a look at Annie's personal message on this post. Quite an eye-opener. I have pinned it to make sure everyone gets a chance to see it.
Great illustration of the kind of freedoms stolen from us. I lost 400 international friends on Twitter. Facebook, Twitter, all social media has revealed itself to be an instrument of nothing but the wielding of corporate/government/institutional power and repression. Trusting in some way, some day I will find these 400 friends again.
I lost a global network of over 12,000 activists.
Lots was lost. I was just getting started and many of those hundreds also had many fellow activists. These things happen in geometric progressions. Each one, teaches one.
I had been building my network for a full decade. In a year on Substack I have a following of only just over 2,000 and most of those were not following me on other social media platforms. The breaking of the network has limited my resources as well as my reach.
These things are sad for certain. This war we are in is expensive and takes a huge toll on each of us for certain. But I can’t help but think perhaps there is a reason we don’t yet fully appreciate. One thing of which I am certain there are no coincidences or accidents. It us up to us to find the connections to whatever truth is to be found. Hopefully go forward. We are still here!
I'm asking around in Hastings
Thanks Adam! If you find Annie, would you give her a link to my Substack please?
I will
She found this post and I have pinned her response. Take a look.
i really hope she is ok💝🙏
Annie found this post, see the pinned post. It seems that she is far from 'OK'!!
Maybe....
Klaus won't like what he finds in MY brain! lol
https://rumble.com/v28o8uw-wef-declares-that-human-beings-are-no-longer-sovereign.html
She found me. Check out the new pinned posts.
I cannot use twitter but I can look and that is a user from New Zealand. Not Anne-Marie Carey.
Annie found this post, see the pinned post.