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Kirk Galbraith's avatar

Good 1 Frances from one septuagenarian to another, I still enjoy the sound and lyrics of the Who purely for their intent, regardless of the fact that they did "get fooled again." "It is easier to fool people, than to tell them they have been fooled" ~ Mark Twain

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Livia's avatar

such a great song that this WHO band has not lived by within their own lyrics.

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Vinnie's avatar

I apologize greatly for disturbing your site, I should have kept my observations to myself.

Also realize the two tiered system….

I am not here to upset others , spoke out of turn.

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Frances Leader's avatar

No worries, Vinny! You expressed your concerns.... and you are not the only one who has them!

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Greg lord's avatar

Our "50s" and "60" generation were just as manipulated as prvious generations!

Coming from this generation, I must say that all the "revolutionary" sentiments were just rose tinted ,feel good factors.The real manipulators were able to create a greedy ,grasping,self centered,materialistic generation of Baby Boomers and turn us into "consumerist clones".

Our generation has singly, offered on a plate to our oligarch masters, our former moral ,ethical and religious codes of behaviour to the Satanic feeding frenzy of what is now manifesting as the AI "Beast" system.It's poignant to see that countries in Eastern Europe and Russia have disavowed this Western based "Circus of narcissistic self delusion" and have strengthened their resolve to reject this "New World Order" of slave mentality that is emerging as the "Hive Mind",here in the West.

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Frances Leader's avatar

"a greedy, grasping, self centered, materialistic generation of Baby Boomers and turn us into "consumerist clones"." - WHOA there Neddy! Speak for yourself. That may have been your experience in cushy uninvolved USA but it was not the case for us in UK or bombed out Europe!

We never had enough money to become consumers on quite the scale you may have experienced in the so-called 'Land of the Free'.

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Kevin's avatar

Most of the lyrics of yesterday spoke out against the military industrial complex. Think of the anti vaxxers as the guys who refused to fight in the Vietnam war. Mohammed Ali went to jail because he refused to answer the draft. He was vilified for his actions, but he was right. Even I was taught to think less of him.

I get my vaccines because I believed they had our backs. I had to travel. I wanted my life back. But they wanted to keep their power. And now because of their repeated lies and screw ups, they have nothing to say that I want to hear, mostly about any issue. From health to war. They lie about everything. They always did, they always do and they always will.

In the end, to avoid them you will have to lie too. Very few will stand up and say no. Most if they are smart will go underground and hope for someone to lead us out of this entire generation of nonsense.

I am not a polluter but realize sometimes I have to take a crap on something to live.

I do not believe in any war despite participating voluntarily in a couple of my countries aggressions.

I am tough on crime and sensitive to victims.

I believe boys and girls are boys and girls until they are old enough to be something else.

I don't believe I am racist but have made statements that were incorrect and could have been hurtful and have changed my tune.

I don't believe in government or big business but at times have fallen for their stupid greed and power plays.

We are all guilty of something and I forgive each person for their transgressions so long as they stop.

I get it. I will strive to be a better person. And I will fail at times, beg for forgiveness and carry on.

Please let me love and forgive everyone.

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Frances Leader's avatar

When we were dancing to the Who, the Herd and Fleetwood Mac at the Marquee Club on a Friday night in the late 60s, we were also gathering together to stand in protest against the Vietnam war outside the American Embassy during the following Saturday mornings. It was almost 'de rigeur' for us London kids at that time.

We developed our own fashions, rejected shoes and hair cuts. My grandmother saw one of my homemade outfits once and said I was her very own 'Bohemian' - this was long before anyone called us 'hippies' or labelled 1967 'the summer of love'.

We had no idea what was going on in San Francisco, but our best musical heroes flocked there to make a name for themselves. We lost Fleetwood Mac first, closely followed by Peter Frampton. The Who did not get famous via that route. Like the Stones and the Beatles, they stayed in the UK and toured until they broke through and got a record deal, at least four years ahead of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours LP and Peter Frampton Comes Alive.

The bands I witnessed growing up in London during the 60s were very young - no more than teenagers at the time. They had no equipment, built their own guitars and effects pedals, wrote their own songs and performed for a few beers around pubs and clubs. I remember Phil Collins, who was less than 14 years old, begging Keith Moon to let him have a shot on the drums during pre-performance sound checks at the Marquee.

I remember David Bowie, dressed in a wacky array of colours, strange hats and make up. He was about 16 at the time, just an arty regular among the Marquee Club crowd of wannabes.

Many of us were inspired to write and perform. Even I went on to sing in a protest folk band for a couple of years.... the 60s saw an explosion of all the arts in London, because without them it would have remained the deadly dull, grey, dirty, half bombed up, poverty stricken hellhole that the predator classes had cruelly created with their vile bogus wars.

My generation played in the bomb craters as nippers, but we were seeds who grew into bright colourful and above all, HOPEFUL, life loving flowers with a massive hatred for war and warmongers.

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Beige44's avatar

Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey---the only surviving original members of The Who---did get fooled again. They are dangerous fools, misleading their vaxxable and vaxxed fans. Like so many other shameful, brainwashed rock dinosaurs (Neil Young, Elton John, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Joni Mitchell etc etc), this duo are close-minded dupes who bought into the official narrative and cannot be bothered to look at the overwhelming scientific evidence that the genetic cocktails ("vaccines") are medically useless, always harmful, and often lethal products. The covid "vaccines" have killed and physically destroyed millions of people...in far greater numbers than the numbers of people affected by an alleged respiratory virus which has an official infection fatality rate much lower than the seasonal flu.

Townshend is fully vaccinated and boosted; he fervently supports the Covid kill-shots. In an interview he said: "Whether you’re Pete Townshend, whether you’re Neil Young, whether you’re Joni Mitchell, we need the fuckin’ vaccine! [Laughs] Whether you need it when you’re a healthy 30 year-old is another story. That I just don’t know. My wife is on the fence with all this. But what we know is, we’re very glad I had all three vaccines." (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWho/comments/srp77r/pete_townshend_on_joe_rogan_spotify_nfts_and/)

In a BBC Radio interview Townshend gushed about the value of lockdowns [which have destroyed millions of jobs, livelihoods and businesses] and how "he feels 'really lucky' with regard to the situation, 'because what I do mainly is spend a lot of time on my own in the studio.' " (http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-news/2020/4/2/the-whos-pete-townshend-says-coronavirus-crisis-is-giving-hi.html) "Pete Townshend said the lockdown is like a “gift” to him. “I feel like I’ve been given an answer to a prayer....” he told Rolling Stone." https://ultimateclassicrock.com/brian-may-coronavirus-lesson/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

As for Roger Daltrey, "Daltrey has expressed his gratitude after being given a potentially life-saving vaccine against the Covid-19 coronavirus, joining a list of celebrities including Sir David Attenborough, Dolly Parton and Arnold Schwarzenegger who are keen to encourage other people to do the same – in order to protect their own health and that of others, and help the world return to something like normality." https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/covid-vaccine-the-whos-roger-daltrey-sets-an-example-for-his-generation-and-the-rest-scotsman-comment-3166748

The Who runs a charity foundation, Teenage Cancer. I hope these Covidian cult members, Townshend and Daltrey, realize that the "vaccines" which they fervently support have directly caused an explosion in cancer cases (and many other illnesses) among the young and old alike due to immune system degradation:

7,500% Increase in Recorded Cases of Cancer Following COVID-19 Vaccines https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/7500-increase-in-recorded-cases-of-cancer-following-covid-19-vaccines/

Post-Covid Vaccine Super Cancers Like This Exploding Everywhere

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=104310

10,000% Increase in Cancers Following COVID-19 Vaccines as Doctors and Scientists Worldwide Sound the Alarm https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/10000-increase-in-cancers-following-covid-19-vaccines-as-doctors-and-scientists-worldwide-sound-the-alarm

Thanks to covid “vaccines,” the military’s cancer rate has more than TRIPLED https://www.globalresearch.ca/act-of-war-thanks-to-covid-vaccines-the-militarys-cancer-rate-has-more-than-tripled/5768519

Top Oncologist: Cancer in Patients Exploding After COVID Shots https://www.globalresearch.ca/top-oncologist-cancer-patients-exploding-after-covid-shots/5800717

Bombshell Study Reveals Blood Abnormalities in 94% of COVID Vaccinated Participants. Important information for anyone contemplating the jab https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/bombshell-study-reveals-blood-abnormalities?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

"Dr. Ryan Cole's presentation to the one-year summit of America's Frontline Doctors clearly explains all the science---the mRNA vaccines (and the viral-vector vaccines) all cause inflammation of kidneys, lungs, heart, and brain, plus increased risk of cancer and of many other diseases in those who got vaxxed (17-min video)

...PRIME MINISTER, Can you spare 17 minutes to save your country?"

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=82785

Stop the Slaughter! CDC: Massive Surge in Deaths and Cancers. MASS DIE-OFF in England and Wales - "We are expecting a 5000 percent increase in excess mortality for this year" - Insurance company CEO https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/stop-the-slaughter-cdc-massive-surge

Dr. Vernon Coleman: Here’s Why Most of the Jabbed Will Die Early https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/dr-vernon-coleman-heres-why-most-of-the-jabbed-will-die-early

"The cancer risk for the vaxxed cannot be under-estimated. No one knows what will happen. There are already early signs of problems. A doctor in Idaho reports that he has seen a twenty times increase in the incidence of endometrial cancer in jabbed patients...."

Official Data shows Covid-19 Vaccines cause serious Immune System degradation; and every shot makes things considerably worse https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/03/covid-vaccines-cause-immune-system-degradation

All these rock icons joined the Establishment a long time ago. It was always about the money. Just like Hollywood, where the King Of Liars, Steven Spielberg, promotes one Holocaust while any discussion of the ongoing vaccine-induced holocaust is forbidden and gets you banned.

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Frances Leader's avatar

I am happy to say that being 70 years young means that I do not view the world or form opinions about people through this one very recent and very myopic lens - COVID.

It also means that I understand tour operators and venue policies are not under the control of the performance artists.

It also means that I respect people's personal health choices and do not judge their entire life's work by those choices.

Above all that, my age and wisdom has shown me that the predator class loves creating folk heroes and then destroying them in the eyes of the public. It is a psy-ops designed to destabilise and hurt us. They have tried to do it with every politician, actor, musician or sportsman.

Do not let the rules they impose on us cloud our judgement.

The lyrics of the songs, written in the 60s stand as a testament to the zeitgeist of the time, the grass root sentiments of London's youth.

We grew up playing in bomb craters, living on tight rations with black market help. Our parents were psychologically scarred by WW2. Their parents were scarred by WW1.

We won't get fooled again.

But you might.

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Beige44's avatar

When a rock star or famous actor or other celebrity gives interviews declaring how wonderful the covid "vaccines" are and how everyone should get jabbed, then their "personal health choice", as you put it, is no longer just personal--because they are proselytizing their ill-informed views to their millions of often-gullible fans. "Won't Get Fooled Again" is a good song, it's too bad the song's performers live the opposite of what the song preaches.

If just one single celebutard admitted their grievous mistake about the covid scam and the deadly genetic "vaccines" (which should all be taken off the market yesterday), and if they apologized and spoke the truth to their fans, this brave act could have an electrifying ripple effect and transform the public debate. But IMHO it will never happen. They are ALL too wedded to the establishment and to Big Buck$$$. I hope I'm proven wrong someday.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Are you saying that Pete Townshend and other celebs are deliberately lying to us, knowing that the vaccines are injurious? I doubt that very much. They have been coerced and misinformed - just like the billions of people worldwide who were daft enough to line up for these poisonous injections.

We cannot curse their entire existence, reject their life's work and hate on them simply because they did not do any research and were horribly misled by health professionals!

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Beige44's avatar

I don't reject their life's work. I still listen to their music, even to Joni Mitchell and Neil Young. I agree they were misinformed, like many others, by the biggest, most criminal propaganda campaign in history. The problem is how to reach such people and turn them around. I have no idea how to do that. I did send polite emails to many well-known actors, rock/pop singers, politicians, editors, VIPs, supplying them with tons of objective information about the "vaccines", the fraudulent PCR tests, the bogus data, the harmful useless masks, and so forth. Never got a reply. Back to square one.

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Frances Leader's avatar

These celebs never see our missives. They have 'people' who handle all that for them. It is impossible to get through the labyrinth of security around the biggest stars and that isolates them from the truth. I feel very sorry for them because, if they knew that the vaccines would murder their audience, they would NEVER endorse the procedure. Who wants to kill off their fans?

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Kevin's avatar

Applause. We were all mostly fooled about this pandemic. The media and government need wars to survive. This is just another version.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Yeah!!!!!!

I just watched an interview with Roger D a couple of weeks ago, I don't think it was all that recent, but ... fairly recent. Course I forgot the name of the guy that interviewed him, but he was fun, too.

Roger is so lovely!! I thought he was just brilliant, as they say over your way. ^_^ THANKS.

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ducks's avatar

the is The Who, not the WHO... thank you!

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Markker's avatar

I was a bit too young for them for Live at Leeds. I was more into Leonard Cohen! I am very concerned about the World Health Organisation WHO, who will be meeting in next few days to secretly agree amendments to new health treaty which will probably all agree to forget human rights. If 194 countries sign up, it could be monthly experimental injections to be able to participate in society. This has to be stopped but how? I believe recent Contagion table top exercise consisted mainly African countries. This could be either a warning to them who objected earlier or to sweeten them up, or both. How do we stop this?

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Frances Leader's avatar

We don't HAVE to obey them. We don't have to get fooled again. Which, is precisely what this post is trying to point out.

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Markker's avatar

I know, Frances, but all my friends and family are still blinded! It's fine us all talking on here knowing what we know. I am banned from mentioning anything to them. I am already cut off from some of them.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Shit that is thrown at decent peeps COMES AROUND. You might call it "car mah," cuz it rolls right arf the Coolios and sticks to the stinkfish. ;)

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Frances Leader's avatar

Perhaps it is just as well. When they suffer the consequences of their actions, you won't have to watch.

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The Word Herder's avatar

"Countries" may sign up, but that doesn't mean WE the PEOPLE have to do anything.

DO NOT COMPLY. That's my philosophy.

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Kyle Young's avatar

The question today is - did any of them take the jab? Or did they become as deluded as so many others?

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Frances Leader's avatar

So you will judge people and their ENTIRE LIFE'S WORK only by whether or not they were compromised into taking a jab?

You have fallen for the divisive othering that feeds the beast.

Let me give you some stark examples:

My neighbour works as an early morning cleaner at the local Co-op supermarket. She would have lost her job and become unemployed if she had refused the jab. She took the risk, reluctantly.

My friend works as a nurse in our local hospital. She would have lost her job and become unemployed if she had refused the jab. She took the risk, reluctantly too and continues to work even though it made her very sick.

My family were so terrorised by tell-lie-vision and media hype that they queued up to get vaccinated and were horrified when I said that I would not be joining them. They genuinely believe that I will die of Covid and they will only get mild symptoms, because that is what the tell-lie-vision has convinced them is the truth.

They do not mind suffering a few mild adverse reactions - they think this means that the jab is working because THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD.

None of these examples given here have time to do research like I do. None of them have read anything I write. Nor did they consult me for an opinion prior to them trotting off to compromise their health.

Now I wait. Hoping that they were administered weak jabs or placebos or saline. I won't condemn them because they were poorly informed! I don't criticise them for weighing up their choices and deciding that their livelihood was the most important thing to consider, in view of their responsibilities and dependents.

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Vinnie's avatar

You do realize that Pete

stands for nothing…

empty words…

He is an “Elite”.😞

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Kevin's avatar

Bullshit.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Pete Townshend was a teenager when he wrote the lyrics of the two songs I have chosen to mention here. He was NOT elite at the time and neither were any others in the band.

Nobody is famous without the machine, sad to say. I knew a lot of musicians in London during the 60s. Many of them were original and talented. They expressed our perspective very well.

The fact that the predator money grabbers of this world taint every single art form with their thievery and exploitation does not mean that the artists were or are, insincere. It means that if you are very clever, you can negotiate your way in this world, get your message out USING the predator class if necessary.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Well said.

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Vinnie's avatar

❤️👍 Excellent point as I was being overly judgmental! Thank you Frances for the excellent reminder!

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The Word Herder's avatar

I know there are "Bad Guys" that read SS, and I don't hold it against you that you're concerned about that, but... FUCK THEM. I ain't holdin' back on their account, they can come and kiss my furry dog bootox. They are Stinktards and Fuckers, and I ain't afraid of 'em.

^_^

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Vinnie's avatar

Thank you dear Word Herder. I do not know how to do rss feeds or VPN and all that stuff,

as odd things have been happening with my computer, internet, etc. I do not want to grow insecure in my daily readings communications...I am lazy and also believe those that want to know will anyhow... yet less is still more! LOL

YOU SPEAK VOLUMES ...for those of us who cannot...

"We SALUTE and APPRECIATE you!!"

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The Word Herder's avatar

Cheers, Vinny. I just realized why your name is familiar... xo

Doggly smiles to U.

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Vinnie's avatar

👍

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The Word Herder's avatar

Why do you think that? Curious...

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Vinnie's avatar

WH. He is in association with the group Frances Leder and many identifies...

Lots of our most famous and loved British Invasion Musicians, Pop Music Stars etc. Public figures...I am not an expert, I am heartbroken over it. I did not mean to rain on anyone's parade here...I thought many were informed was all.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Informed of what? You still haven't answered my question... ??

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Vinnie's avatar

Meh, this is a public site and I should not have spoken out...too many eyes...its that same group of Elites that have been around for ages...he is a 33rd degree...lots of information and lots of people especially since the 1960's... I don't like being cryptic, but I should have thought before I typed. And I am not a leader or a conspiritor...I follow History mostly and fell upon this all when I was studying American History...Founding Fathers stuff...American Dollar Symbolism stuff...I was not looking for it as it was a rabbit hole event which closed a lot of missing puzzle pieces in world history...

Sorry to have upset some readers and commentators...

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Frances Leader's avatar

I know people who have been freemasons all their lives and they swear that the organisation is benign. I have never seen any evidence that the grass roots masons realise what their organisation is about at the top of its hierarchy. I have never seen any evidence to prove that ANYONE is 33rd degree. That sort of information is strictly controlled by the predator class.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Second that.

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LONG In The TRUTH's avatar

.....what EXACTLY do you mean, 'stands for nothing'? NOT true; Pete has ALWAYS been concerned with the human condition - although it WOULD be NICE to know SPECIFICS right about NOW.....

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Vinnie's avatar

That the song is basically double-speak as so many Beatles songs were.

A person can be a part of that 'club' and profess whatever they wish to the masses.

He is a talented public figure after all...

Possibly you may be unaware of his affiliations, Frances has provided many newbies here with the associations of many persons (public and not so...) who are or have been affiliated with this society. It morphes over the years..but is an association of darkness...

Check out Frances' past posts on these issues as I am no expert...

It was a most enlightening and heartbreaking Rabbit Hole which will indeed expand your reality...

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The Word Herder's avatar

Some songs are just poetic or even drug-enhanced... remember the time.

And don't forget, too, that during a three-year PSY OP, you're bound to hear lies that sound like they might be true, when they're just meant to be demoralizing and unsettling.

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Frances Leader's avatar

The songs are NOT double speak. Neither were the Beatles' or the Stones' songs. Do not presume that songs written before bands became famous were in any way distorted. They were not. You are putting a nasty spin on them because you think that the bands have been compromised since they became famous. You think they sold their souls for money. That is not true. That is a psy-ops!

Our folk heroes are a pain in the arse for the predators and so they destroy them by telling lies about them, controlling them and their area of influence. If you don't play along with them - they murder you. Think Bob Marley, Janis Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, John Lennon and many many others.

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Vinnie's avatar

Frances I see your point.... I did and acknowlde your accurate observation.

I listen to music, enjoy what I wish and do not really enter into the acutal history or roots of the artists or entities. What I am aware of from coming in contact with the performance industry in my day...(early 80's) was one had to have the ability to split one's persona or basically compartmentalize their being/personality etc. in order to survive or to walk within the system of noteriety and fame. The person's you mention and many others were tender souls....

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Stegiel's avatar

The amusing thing is as you well know for time out of mind, doubtlessly long long long before chipping flint to an edge Genus Homo Post Modernist has prided itself on not being as stupid as Tradition.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Which traditions do you refer to? The tradition of smashing seven barrels of shit out of anyone that our owners want to dominate? The tradition of stealing resources? The tradition of enslaving whole nations with crippling debt?

Sure - we do pride ourselves on not being as stupid as those kinds of 'traditions'.

May we make it so for generations to come.

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Stegiel's avatar

The tradition that man is made in the image of God. That the human face is emblem. Tradition is not negative. Men are both poles. We pride ourselves on invincible ignorance. And this for many generations.

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Frances Leader's avatar

I am given to plain speaking Stegiel. I appreciate it in others too. So it is incumbent on me to inform you that you don't make a dot of sense. As this is frequently the case, I wonder if it is deliberate and passes, in your opinion, for superior intellect?

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Stegiel's avatar

No.. You are just another soul I read. Now and then you are not an arrogant person.

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LONG In The TRUTH's avatar

....saw them only ONCE, in 1989 at what was then Sullivan Stadium in Foxboro, just outside Boston - of course, WITHOUT Moonie - like & respect 'em a LOT still but, MUCH more of a Kinks (to say NOTHING of the Beatles) fan myself - as so-called 'British Invasion' combos go (hoping to read Dave's second autobio, 'Living On A Thin Line', before too long.....)

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Frances Leader's avatar

Lyrics of that song....

https://youtu.be/fB7KXyiGgK8

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LONG In The TRUTH's avatar

.....Dave's solo albums in the early 80's - especially Chosen People (an IRONIC title) were FAR better, more consistent & sonically interesting than any Kinks longplayers ("Cold Winter", SHOULD'VE been released as a single) - UNTIL Phobia (my FAVORITE of theirs: Arthur; "Shangri-La" is a MASTERPIECE)).....as to the 'oo, I did a MEAN take on "Love Reign O'er Me" at karaoke SEVERAL times over many years - VERY cathartic, to say the LEAST.....

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