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Frances Leader's avatar

The EU building in Strasbourg and the Tower of Basel are the most glaringly obvious symbols built in memory of Nimrod. I had not connected transhumanism but now that Maxgrau has suggested that it is another act in defiance of God, it has become obvious to me too.

I could not figure out why Nimrod, the great grandson of Noah, was so angry with God and wanted to rule the world until I read this, written in the 1st century by Flavius Josephus:

"Now it was Nimrod who excited them to such an affront and contempt of God. He was the grandson of Ham, the son of Noah, a bold man, and of great strength of hand. He persuaded them not to ascribe it to God, as if it were through his means they were happy, but to believe that it was their own courage which procured that happiness.

He also gradually changed the government into tyranny, seeing no other way of turning men from the fear of God, but to bring them into a constant dependence on his power.

He also said he would be revenged on God, if he should have a mind to drown the world again; for that he would build a tower too high for the waters to reach. And that he would avenge himself on God for destroying their forefathers.

Now the multitude were very ready to follow the determination of Nimrod, and to esteem it a piece of cowardice to submit to God; and they built a tower, neither sparing any pains, nor being in any degree negligent about the work: and, by reason of the multitude of hands employed in it, it grew very high, sooner than any one could expect; but the thickness of it was so great, and it was so strongly built, that thereby its great height seemed, upon the view, to be less than it really was. It was built of burnt brick, cemented together with mortar, made of bitumen, that it might not be liable to admit water.

When God saw that they acted so madly, he did not resolve to destroy them utterly, since they were not grown wiser by the destruction of the former sinners; but he caused a tumult among them, by producing in them diverse languages, and causing that, through the multitude of those languages, they should not be able to understand one another.

The place wherein they built the tower is now called Babylon, because of the confusion of that language which they readily understood before; for the Hebrews mean by the word Babel, confusion ..."

Christian Thomas's avatar

I would go further and say that the *entire* Bible, including the New Testament, is assembled and interpreted so as to mislead and to be optimal for the task at hand, which is to control every human being (and to kill those who will not be controlled). Indeed, why would they do it any other way and how come it has become the most widely distributed book of all time? People should know by now that success on that scale is only ever enjoyed by those on the side of evil.

Vast tracts of it are just made up or hoiked in from other cultures and "adopted" as history, often to disguise the true roots of Judaism in Egypt; particularly that the Exodus and the expulsion of the hated, ruling Hyksos from Egypt are one and the same event. They didn't leave, they were expelled, and they weren't a slave class. Why else would Joseph be in charge of Egypt for at least 14 years?

Why does Mark 8:36 say: "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?", with this statement being repeated in other books too - I think Luke and John. This is a beautiful example of the sophisticated techniques used to mislead the reader. No, it's not to elevate the soul to its proper place on the scale of preciousness. In fact we have very little material evidence the soul even exists, let alone that it can be "lost". This sentence actually *proposes* there is a soul and that, even though you don't know it, it is more valuable than everything in the world put together. Your fear of losing something (that yesterday you didn't know existed) is then set against something you are, or were, quite sure of; that material things bring pleasure, comfort, warmth and ease. Your acquisition of these things now puts your soul and your eternal destiny at risk.

The simple and rather obvious reason for this sentence is to have you run round trying to untie a deliberate spiritual knot while *they* get on with the business of owning the world! Until the prosperity gospel emerged, poverty was a state of grace and pursuit of riches was sinful - or would at least jeopardise your chances of spiritual relief in Heaven. It could hardly be more convenient, could it?

We also have the context of these laws and Commandments completely wrong. The Commandments aren't a set of guidelines that will lead you to spiritual purity and thence to Heaven. In fact, you would be hard pushed to find any sort of spiritual pursuit in the Old Testament at all - there are just those who are favoured by God and those who aren't (and how telling is that?). These were laws for barbarians, who would rape any woman found alone and unprotected. That's why you shouldn't covet thy neighbour's wife or commit adultery - a two-fer on the sin front! Let's take a wild guess and suggest that the reason one shouldn't "bear false witness" is because they were all habitual liars - something that has not changed one jot in the 3,500 years since. This was a leader, or God, trying to get some semblance of order, not trying to set his people off on a spiritually enriching path - unless, of course, that path was to distract them. The concept of a "*spiritual path*" was completely unknown, and would remain such until Paul, a dastardly agent of Rome, decided he would supercharge the idea so as to bring non-Jews under the same system of control by offering them less onerous terms than Judaism demanded. Even then, the spiritual path was supervised by the Church, succeeded or failed at the whim of the Church and was mainly achieved by acquiescence and obedience rather than by any personal work or internal transformation.

We make a grave mistake when we overlay concepts of spiritual advancement (usually taken from the East and only current in Western thought for the last hundred/two hundred years or so) on these Laws or on the Bible as a whole. Nowhere in the Bible does God ever make any effort to put one of his subjects on the correct "spiritual path". He may castigate them, or punish them, or frequently kill them, but he's never interested in spiritual advancement at all; only control. If we keep painting a hazy glow of spiritual righteousness and woo-woo around these stories, how on earth are we ever going to interpret them correctly, let alone see through them to their true motives - one of which is to make sure that you are thoroughly confused by the whole subject?

Sol Hijau's avatar

That is what is called coherent thought and reasoning. Should be pensum at any secondary school.

Christian Thomas's avatar

Thank you for that. I'm glad at least a couple of people liked the train of thought.

Re. your second sentence, I'm not sure I hold out much hope for this helping secondary school students. I did Religious Studies as a supplementary 'O' Level during one of my 'A' Level years. I don't think my general conception of Christianity at that age was anywhere near sophisticated enough to support these ideas. For a start I didn't know we were allowed to doubt what we read, let alone realise that these were mostly fantastical stories that had been made up in order to lead you down a cul-de-sac where you could be controlled. Moreover, I had long ago been taught that even where I thought God was being unjust (say, killing all the soldiers who drank from the river with both hands) that God was probably right and I shouldn't be so impertinent as to doubt him. (God "works in mysterious ways" had done its job here and had flattened not only my doubts but my willingness to ask questions as well.)

A couple of things might translate quite easily, though; for example the context in which we view the Commandments, which tends to be very contemporary, but were actually rules laid down for itinerant tribes in what I'm guessing is the Bronze Age! Although this might save people from layering modern concepts on top of the Commandments, I'm left wondering what good that really is if you don't understand that the role of the clergy is to justify and protect the position of the Kings? Or that religion as a whole is meant to modify your instincts and behaviour so that you don't rise up violently against those Kings? It's a way of de-fanging tigers - and it's no prettier than the zoo equivalent.

Actually, I wonder if it should be taught at all?!

Sol Hijau's avatar

I would say it would surely help, since when starting reasoning even at that age, it forces them to think and with that the questions come and the tsunami is on it's way. But maybe I've been lucky. My father, being an atheist, forced us to follow the religion classes (voluntary) at school, because he said, you need to know the culture you are living in. And, surely because of my background, already at that age, I started questioning things and trying to make logical sense of all "that", concluding that it was another adventure book, like the dozens I loved to read

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You are of course entirely correct Frances. This for me alone, it is to seek consolation and protection from my Maker. And my life of 78 years proves that I have indeed been preserved for some mission which only my Maker knows, I merely follow his guidance and seek His forgiveness for my imperfect existence and resolved through His ransom of his Son on the cross.

It is now by obligation to acknowledge His is great sacrifice in my name and praise Him for his mercy. "Great as those acts of deliverance were, the deliverance God performed through Jesus is much greater. Jesus is the means by which obedient ones are delivered from slavery to sin. (Romans 5:12,18) And that deliverance is “an everlasting deliverance.” (Hebrews 9:11,12) The name Jesus means “YHWH Is Salvation.” Jesus, as our Deliverer, or Saviour, not only rescues us from our past sins but also opens the way for us to enjoy a better future. By delivering them from slavery to sin, Jesus saves his followers from the wrath of God and brings them into a loving relationship. (Matthew 1:21)

Leo's avatar

That is part of tactics : "hidden in plain sight '

Given contradictory information, thesis-antithesis, it will cause confusion. And it will add energy to the eggregore.

Make people think only in a binary way and feed both choices with negative content ( the purpose ).

Support both sides at an election, and choose what option will be implemented (side A wins, implement option A. Side B option B).

So in reality all waking up to a specific issue will at first bring more light to the issue at hand. It will at first hurt more because it comes into awareness.

That is also a reason why people via subconsiousness shy away from certain debates. 'Too confusing' they say ( or any other excuse to evade looking into another reality ).

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"Egregore is an occult concept representing a non-physical entity that arises from the collective thoughts of a distinct group of people. Historically, the concept referred to angelic beings, or watchers, and the specific rituals and practices associated with them, namely within Enochian traditions." ~ Wikipedia.

People who think in a binary way are limited. They have been subjected to mind control and that is my point about the book of Revelation. It is pure mind control and it has a very negative objective and effect.

When confronted with a binary choice I always look for alternatives. I say "there are 360 degrees in a circle. I have the choice to move in any one of these directions rather than be steered left or right".

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"I suspected that the book was fraudulent."

I am inclined to agree with you. Many Christians still do not realize the full extent of the lies and deception used, in the last 2000 years, by the Synagogue of Satan to subvert our civilisation. Today, the Globalists seem to follow the playbook written by their kabbalistic ancestors, as they have been working diligently to fulfill a prophecy, sold to all Christians as "gospel word", in which the symbolism of the "mark of the beast" is so overwhelming, that elaborated scientific solutions have been developed to literally implement it through technology. But the very nature of the Book of Revelation is indeed kabbalistic. Albert Pike, in his 'Morals and Dogma', eulogizes the Kabbalah as "Holy" and the Apocalypse as "sublime Kabalistic and prophetic summary of all occult figures". He puts the Apocalypse on the same level as the Zohar (the Bible of the Kabbalists) and writes that "The Sephar Yezirah, the Sohar, and the Apocalypse are the completest embodiments of Occultism". This tells me that John can't be the author of such book, otherwise why would God inspire him a prophecy that uses the language of Satan?

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It is so easy to write fraudulent stuff, even now with all the tech we have.

How much more easy was it during the Roman Empire?

Recently a friend was searching Facebook and Twitter for my accounts (she did not know I had been suspended permanently from those sites). When she was finally able to get in touch with me she said that there are half a dozen fake accounts in my name, but nothing is posted on them not even a photo..... she showed me them on her iPhone. They are curious accounts, like doppelgangers, possibly to steal my identity on those platforms. It occurred to us that the creators of these accounts could feasibly comment on posts using my name and completely mislead people by writing opinions that I would not be likely to express. However, there is no way to check if this is happening at all.

In Rome, when the Bible was translated to Latin, how easy would it have been to add an extra terrorising missive in the name of a persecuted disciple who, being isolated on the island of Patmos, would be oblivious that his name was being used to legitimise something that would mind control all followers of the future religion?

A doddle..... surely?

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Where did I say that I see Revelation as promoting the Beast?

I don't believe in the 'beast' - whatever that is!

What on earth is 'Godly government'? That sounds like a contradiction in terms to me.

There are no dragons, Len. So HOW does one get ended?

It perpetuates belief in the myth of Satan simply by telling a con-story about that entity.

The book misleads, terrorises and worst of all it encourages fake pious people to sit on their laurels and, with extreme hubris, assume that THEY are going to be saved by some mythical entity rather that getting up and doing something about injustice and evil thinkers directly THEMSELVES.

The book of Revelation has mind warped and mind controlled billions of people for almost 2,000 years and the power of their thought has been hijacked to manifest an ugly torturous future which was predicting so much misery and hell on earth.

I would emphasise that I believe that ALL THOUGHT HAS POWER and, if that is true, then we need a massive reset of our thinking to counteract these 2,000 years of stupid ignorant self flagellation.

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Quite agree with you. The final book of the New Testament is a kabbalistic psyop, a sort of biblical QAnon. If it had to do anything with God, Bill Gates wouldn't be so keen to refer to it.

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Frances, fully agree on your thoughts about book of Revelation. It serves to the same purpose as Hollywood movies just much longer and deeper. They harness our energy through written or audio-visual media (emotions - anger, fear mostly) to manifest future events they scripted for us. Here is Klaus right, they shape future by consistency and our emotional investment. And yea, Roman empire is more alive than ever, riding of Nimrod's Babylon.

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Exactly - and so succinctly put, Julija! I wish I could be so brief when explaining such huge concepts. Bravo.

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Thank you, Frances. I learned from you about Rome and Black Nobilities in your excellent papers 2 years back! Still grateful ♥

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And yet one very awake and aware person like Frances can effect change in thousands. Our thoughts do create our reality and the other team wants us scared and shut down. That is why we must each move beyond our limiting thoughts and add to the pool of positivity in the “ stillness of the lake”mentioned in her poem. We don’t need everyone to wake up... “those with ears to hear” can create the new paradigm. Individually we are powerful and together we are unstoppable.

I am so grateful to you, Frances, for the reminders!

Nunc Ceopi!

Thank you.

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I love "Never trust any bastard with a bible under their arm". So true. It's a kind of zenith of fakery.

I still find myself falling for it, though, often giving "Christians" more latitude and credence than I would others. It's almost subconscious and happens even though I know it is one of the oldest, most practiced covers of all time. These people have been standing next to kings and doing their bidding for as long as there have been kings.

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I’ve tried several times but I’m afraid i can’t work out what this is getting at.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Godly government is an oxymoron.

I suppose it depends who or what your god is.....

For me God is Life itself. Life does not govern. It simply IS.

I don't see it as all powerful, quite the opposite. I see it as fragile and delicate. It requires to be nurtured and protected, like a baby. It does not form governments. It adapts and submits and evolves towards an objective that is known only by itself. It is subject to the various, and powerful forces of nature.

So, as in Taoism, it can be understood as a duality.

Life is Yin, receiving the cosmic energy, Yang, in perpetual cooperation to produce more Life.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/life

Unfortunately, as stated in the Tao Te Ching: The Tao or Way cannot be explained in words.

So this clumsy effort of mine is inadequate to the task of conveying the magnitude of this philosophical paradigm.

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You clearly explain what the culprit is. The conviction most people have that we need government or be governed, instead of we work together and agree on some basic rules that guarantees stability.

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Frances Leader's avatar

I have commented on your post. The only solution would be a tsunami of truth, surely?

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Walk On The Water https://youtu.be/iAy7lkCXwww

Useful video about the Power of the Spoken Word https://youtu.be/jhfjkvA3VM8

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Revelation does not contain positive teachings! It is a pile of fear porn from start to finish. Yes, the rest of the books in the New Testament are loaded with Jesus' wonderful acts, healings, parables and messages, but there is nothing to suggest that Revelation actually merits a place beside them in any way. In fact, the main body of the Revelation is claimed to come from 'an angel' who does not mention Jesus at all. https://biblehub.com/revelation/

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Actually it does have positive teachings. But not when taking the text literally.

google this : john revelation site:spiritofthescripture.com

a new world will open up (or you run away as fast as possible, or you attack immediately

but . . . it will take time to absorb these new ideas (and an open mind)

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The article is examining John the Baptist's ministry and not Revelation, the final book of the Bible, by John of Patmos. However I do understand that we can interpret the symbols employed in the Bible by applying the kundalini concept.

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Frances Leader's avatar

I keep saying:

Academia will always protect the establishment because it is too vain to admit that it has been deceived.