In 2016 I wrote a poem which examined the zeitgeist and provided a clue to the way out of Prison Planet. I think it is appropriate here, while we are looking for solutions:
Oh yes Frances, it was a big cult hit with university crowds at the time and I went to see it with various Uni friends at least a half dozen times at the local theatre. It was partially responsible for inspiring me to leave the US, which I did for good in 1984. Sadly, the US continued on this programmed path and the rest of the Western world was not far behind were they?
I agree with Andre's identification of the moment that real life died. Although he generalises by calling it 'the 60s'. I would narrow it down to one day in the 60s.
That day was the day when JFK was murdered.
We got the message, worldwide..... there is no limit to the crime that the predators are prepared to use against us, while punishing US for using the same crimes against them.
What I find interesting is that a lot of posts/videos/tweets etc.. all talk about the "problem" but I see very few it any starting a discussion about how to make a "solution". That is the missing conversation.
This film stands up to many watchings. It takes about three times through to get a real understanding of what is motivating it and what the implications are. It is all set in the real-life context of the two principal actors, Gregory and Shawn. Andre was indeed the leader of an enormously famous theater called The Manhattan Project (starting in 1968) and he did leave the theater seven years later, notable as he was one of its artistic leaders.
I suggest you buy rather than rent this film and keep watching it until you figure out what's going on. It is one of a very few films that has the literary impact of a book. No part of it is a contrivance, it is visionary and it's well-respected among people who value high quality film. It's only "obscure" because there is not a high cultural value placed on this kind of depth, and to some it will seem boring. Personally, I find it to be riveting both in its message and the sublime directing of what seems extremely ordinary — a conversation in a restaurant.
I remember that movie was well received back then. There were still enough people able to keep their minds focused to listen to two men having an intelligent conversation and walking away feeling that they gained something from it. Imagine trying it now.
With few exceptions, people think Andre's modern day contemporaries, are still madmen & women.
We are few...that can see or are open to considering, that this is all concocted distraction, created by the same string pullers, that have done so throughout history.
There ARE many who are realizing the dangers of the jabs, woke agendas, tyranny, 5g, grooming, etc...but they are not ready to accept that it's a larger plan, implemented by a small group of orchestrators.
The one aspect that was missing in that clip...the reason people turn away, or stay put...Comfort.
He was correct, the prisons of comfort, are built by the people themselves. It is self perpetuating and self replicating. We've gone from having to toil in the fields and go hungry for a few days, to sitting, playing video games, ordering a bag of crisps for delivery from the corner shop and being paid (the dole), for the inconvenience of our easy world.
The sheeple...the masses of 2023 are little different than 1981...sadly.
I think no matter what we do about IT today...exposing these unseen actors; their tyranny and centuries old control/manipulation; dangers of their proxy actions today or their overall effect on our societies and species...we must do so, knowing we are only planting seeds, that may or may not sprout, when we are gone.
The hope is we fare better, than those who came before us, planting the same seeds.
Exposing the predator class is not quite as effective as REPLACING them:
Refusing to partake in a hierarchical system. Developing a viable alternative seems to me to be the only way out. It involves reviving some very ancient (pre-science) behaviours as I referenced in my poem 'Holy Shift'.
One of the tricky things people have not done well in the past, is figuring out how to keep those who replace the predators, from becoming the new predators.
It will take generations to reteach the "old" ways...to the new children...but we must start somewhere.
The parallels are too big to ignore, in my opinion, but so many people are convinced of the existence of 'viruses' that their ability to dump that idea is virtually non-existent.
Journalist, Celia Farber, revealed that the AIDS 'epidemic' was a massive exercise in controlled media hype by interviewing Kary Mullis, the inventor of PCR and good friend to Dr Peter Duesberg, but that did not happen until July of 1994.
You can watch the whole film 'My Dinner With Andre' here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mufhVJPHZcPu/
In 2016 I wrote a poem which examined the zeitgeist and provided a clue to the way out of Prison Planet. I think it is appropriate here, while we are looking for solutions:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/holy-shift
Oh yes Frances, it was a big cult hit with university crowds at the time and I went to see it with various Uni friends at least a half dozen times at the local theatre. It was partially responsible for inspiring me to leave the US, which I did for good in 1984. Sadly, the US continued on this programmed path and the rest of the Western world was not far behind were they?
I agree with Andre's identification of the moment that real life died. Although he generalises by calling it 'the 60s'. I would narrow it down to one day in the 60s.
That day was the day when JFK was murdered.
We got the message, worldwide..... there is no limit to the crime that the predators are prepared to use against us, while punishing US for using the same crimes against them.
JFK's murder was an inflection point, but the groundwork had been laid many (perhaps hundreds of, or more) years before.
This war between the "elites" and the world has been going on for a very long time. Perhaps since before the Bronze Age.
Eek.... it would seem that you are a very recent reader of my work....
What I find interesting is that a lot of posts/videos/tweets etc.. all talk about the "problem" but I see very few it any starting a discussion about how to make a "solution". That is the missing conversation.
Let's make 2023 the year for solutions!
I'm working on it. Will be dropping content soon. Hopefully others will spread the message and follow suit.
This film stands up to many watchings. It takes about three times through to get a real understanding of what is motivating it and what the implications are. It is all set in the real-life context of the two principal actors, Gregory and Shawn. Andre was indeed the leader of an enormously famous theater called The Manhattan Project (starting in 1968) and he did leave the theater seven years later, notable as he was one of its artistic leaders.
I suggest you buy rather than rent this film and keep watching it until you figure out what's going on. It is one of a very few films that has the literary impact of a book. No part of it is a contrivance, it is visionary and it's well-respected among people who value high quality film. It's only "obscure" because there is not a high cultural value placed on this kind of depth, and to some it will seem boring. Personally, I find it to be riveting both in its message and the sublime directing of what seems extremely ordinary — a conversation in a restaurant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Gregory
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mufhVJPHZcPu/
Thank you for the clip. I have never seen the movie but the clip is 🎯
(...hmmm I havent swiched on my TV for 6 years...maybe Ill finally move to that dream destination I keep making plans for....)
You can see the whole film: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mufhVJPHZcPu/
You are so kind . Thank you.
Funny this movie continues to be referenced after so many years. If both men live today a new Dinner is in order.
Andre Gregory is now 88 years old. Wallace Shawn is 79 so it could happen! That would be wonderful. I wonder if the idea has occurred to them?
brilliant. a classic. "new york is the model for the new concentration camp."
related (thematically)
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/watch-this-fascinating-kaleidoscopic-array-with-mark-crispin-miller-and-tessa-lena-reminiscent-of-the-classic-film-my-dinner-with-andre/
I’ve never heard of this movie. Thank you Frances for sharing this clip. Mind blowing stuff.
I remember that movie was well received back then. There were still enough people able to keep their minds focused to listen to two men having an intelligent conversation and walking away feeling that they gained something from it. Imagine trying it now.
yes, exactly, good question. "what do we do about IT", what can we do about it?
With few exceptions, people think Andre's modern day contemporaries, are still madmen & women.
We are few...that can see or are open to considering, that this is all concocted distraction, created by the same string pullers, that have done so throughout history.
There ARE many who are realizing the dangers of the jabs, woke agendas, tyranny, 5g, grooming, etc...but they are not ready to accept that it's a larger plan, implemented by a small group of orchestrators.
The one aspect that was missing in that clip...the reason people turn away, or stay put...Comfort.
He was correct, the prisons of comfort, are built by the people themselves. It is self perpetuating and self replicating. We've gone from having to toil in the fields and go hungry for a few days, to sitting, playing video games, ordering a bag of crisps for delivery from the corner shop and being paid (the dole), for the inconvenience of our easy world.
The sheeple...the masses of 2023 are little different than 1981...sadly.
I think no matter what we do about IT today...exposing these unseen actors; their tyranny and centuries old control/manipulation; dangers of their proxy actions today or their overall effect on our societies and species...we must do so, knowing we are only planting seeds, that may or may not sprout, when we are gone.
The hope is we fare better, than those who came before us, planting the same seeds.
Exposing the predator class is not quite as effective as REPLACING them:
Refusing to partake in a hierarchical system. Developing a viable alternative seems to me to be the only way out. It involves reviving some very ancient (pre-science) behaviours as I referenced in my poem 'Holy Shift'.
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/holy-shift
Whole heartedly agree.
One of the tricky things people have not done well in the past, is figuring out how to keep those who replace the predators, from becoming the new predators.
It will take generations to reteach the "old" ways...to the new children...but we must start somewhere.
Loved " MY Dinner with Andre! happy new year!
Thanks for the correction, duly edited xx
The parallels are too big to ignore, in my opinion, but so many people are convinced of the existence of 'viruses' that their ability to dump that idea is virtually non-existent.
Journalist, Celia Farber, revealed that the AIDS 'epidemic' was a massive exercise in controlled media hype by interviewing Kary Mullis, the inventor of PCR and good friend to Dr Peter Duesberg, but that did not happen until July of 1994.
https://duesberg.com/media/cfmullis.html
Thankfully Celia is still on the case!
See her Substack: https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/well-take-a-cup-of-kindness-yet
This quote from Mark Twain summarizes those who believe in the germ theory and In airborne pathogenic viruses:
“What gets us in trouble is not what we don’t know - It’s what we know for sure that just ain’t so”