Hi, Frances. Just discussing, not attacking. Just came from your 'PsyOp' post. If you've been watching Peterson as closely as I have since he came into the public eye (over Canada's Bill C-16), then you would put him your 'controlled opposition' category.
But I don't think he's CO, I just think he's human, complex, and a mess. Everyone whose profile rises reveals themselves. Doesn't mean they're psy-ops and controlled opposition.
I have no idea why you might imagine that I think negatively of either of these JPs.... I certainly do not. I agree that he is a mess and that was due to horrible prescription drugs and allergies which he and his daughter were miraculously able to discover and overcome.
I respect him. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but I defend his right to speak his mind.
I "might imagine" after reading your 'PsyOp' post. Kirsch's comments are open, and Malone's being closed isn't indicative of "psy op". I don't believe that either are "controlled opposition", or many others who are tarred with the brush.
No matter: anyone can believe anything or say anything, or be as inconsistent as they wish.
Re Peterson: The evidence of the criminal-level harm of deadly psychiatric drugs has been clear and public for at least a decade. Yet Peterson supported them (to the bewilderment of the psychiatry-critical community) and never posed a single question about them.
Evidence of the criminal-level harm of benzos has been clear and public for years, yet Peterson stupidly took them. For a smart guy, he has catastrophically poor judgment. How does a PhD psychologist not know about benzos...?
I believed he had solid footing in the areas of both fascism and archetypal spirituality, so when I was censored off Instagram I joined the platform he's most closely associated with (Thinkspot). I was shocked as Plandemic continued and grew (and all evidence mounted) yet he didn't post a word about Plandemic in any way, shape, or form; nor did he encourage or promote any writing about it. For almost two years, Plandemic didn't exist on Thinkspot. Some of us noted it constantly in total bewilderment. I eventually left Thinkspot due to its stubborn, self-inflicted blindness.
How did the guy who publicly called himself "an expert in totalitarianism" (his words) entirely miss a globalist attack of biotech totalitarianism on humanity?
Plandemic hit around the same time as his benzo injury, and he was sick and recovering. But as soon as he returned to the public eye he urged and admonished his massive legions of followers (coincidentally mostly comprised of young men, which is the demographic hardest hit by the killshot) to, "Just get the damn shot so we can all go back to normal!" On video. Many of us discussed it and were properly horrified.
Also, in a long Dave Rubin convo (you can find on Rubin's Youtube) at around the same time, he praised Justin Trudeau's work on the "climate crisis" and spoke animatedly about a plum invite he received to sit on a UN climate panel. On that convo and others, he disparaged "conspiracy types" (his words) when discussing "the pandemic".
Meanwhile, back in reality, all thinking Canadians understood exactly what Trudeau, "climate crisis" ,and "covid pandemic" were about. What reality is Peterson in?
Peterson can be as stupid or as purchased as he likes. His legions of fans can fall at his feet now that he's back to his pre-benzo fame. However, I mourn the injuries and deaths of the young men who naïvely thought he was a truth-teller, and got their killshots at his behest.
So, everyone's a "psy-op", except Peterson gets a pass? Enjoy him. :-)
In respect of Kirsch & Malone (which seems to be your underlying contention with me) I have an ongoing battle with those two which you seem to have missed.
You come across very aggressively and a bit of a mess yourself.
In your initial comment you generously stated "But I don't think he's CO, I just think he's human, complex, and a mess. Everyone whose profile rises reveals themselves. Doesn't mean they're psy-ops and controlled opposition."
Then you ignore that the long term benzo addiction occurred because of stress related to his wife's health and then you proceed to point out that his judgement remains severely impaired. Did you miss my point that I do not think Peterson is controlling the opposition or a psyops?
No, I've been perfectly nice. And perfectly factual on every front. I've followed him from Day 1 and "ignore" nothing. You're very triggered for someone who lauds free speech. Cheers. :-)
Anyone, and/or any type of media/medium, that refuses to debate openly and allow FREE debate of the events unfolding worldwide has already LOST any debate. The 'cancel culture' is simply a manifestation of the totalitarian nature of the psycho's driving events since 2020, and reflective of the fact that EVERYTHING they're doing has NO scientific basis and is a PURPOSE DRIVEN SCAM. 'Cancel culture' simply exposes the psycho's FRAUD now unfolding. So, we can bet for 100% CERTAIN, that the online media platforms you mention cancelling you, ARE PART OF THE FRAUD. Most likely, 100% bought and paid for by Schwab/Gates and co.
As an old fart who declined robotic laparoscopic surgery, at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, after having gone through the MRI, and then finding out what it was going to cost me after BCBS chipped in their tens of thousands, I have to agree with JP that we should have Poop Pride Month! (Or was he just being sarcastic? If so, I am offended and I ban him from my phone!)
100 years ago, it was common for a man of say 30/40/50 years old to marry a woman of say 15 years old. This was common. Has that changed? What has changed? How? Public opinion? Or is it ok for men to marry women half their age, as long as the women is say 18? 21? Somewhere in here, there is the power of social movements to affect our long term mores (moralities). Best from OR
My personal beliefs also understand that women have been giving birth by sexual maturity through the ages. Watching the stigma of one or two fellow highschool students, (back in the 1990s') it made 'being pregnant while a teenager' worse than ....many things, horrid looking to me due to constant embarassment and trying to hide the pregnancies. Never made sense to me, when its sort of like perfectly natural, for at least some women, to have kids while 'too young'. I think choosing a career over kids is fine too, but when women have careers and kids I think it is usually hard on both parties. I grew up in that situation, there was material wealth but constantly exhausted parent who then died too young. Other factors like the theft of our wealth certainly play in over these last 40 years, like a hole in the bucket, makeing all parties need to work. Peace
Jul 7, 2022·edited Jul 7, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
Okay, after I watched the video: YEAH! I can totally understand why JP Sears likes Jordan Peterson so much... Now, so do I. I admit, I've never seen him before, but even though I've never been much of a Twitter person, I MAY have seen something he wrote, who knows.
But WOW, what an EXCELLENT unveiling of the stupid, incoherent, nasty, "woke" BULLSHIT that is being served up to young people and encouraging, as so aptly put, a severe and bizarre response to the embarrassment and discomfort WE ALL FEEL as adolescents. Predatory much?
GREAT POST, to get this video OUT! Thank you, Fran!
Hi, Frances. Just discussing, not attacking. Just came from your 'PsyOp' post. If you've been watching Peterson as closely as I have since he came into the public eye (over Canada's Bill C-16), then you would put him your 'controlled opposition' category.
But I don't think he's CO, I just think he's human, complex, and a mess. Everyone whose profile rises reveals themselves. Doesn't mean they're psy-ops and controlled opposition.
Discernment is everything. But best to you!
I have no idea why you might imagine that I think negatively of either of these JPs.... I certainly do not. I agree that he is a mess and that was due to horrible prescription drugs and allergies which he and his daughter were miraculously able to discover and overcome.
I respect him. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but I defend his right to speak his mind.
I "might imagine" after reading your 'PsyOp' post. Kirsch's comments are open, and Malone's being closed isn't indicative of "psy op". I don't believe that either are "controlled opposition", or many others who are tarred with the brush.
No matter: anyone can believe anything or say anything, or be as inconsistent as they wish.
Re Peterson: The evidence of the criminal-level harm of deadly psychiatric drugs has been clear and public for at least a decade. Yet Peterson supported them (to the bewilderment of the psychiatry-critical community) and never posed a single question about them.
Evidence of the criminal-level harm of benzos has been clear and public for years, yet Peterson stupidly took them. For a smart guy, he has catastrophically poor judgment. How does a PhD psychologist not know about benzos...?
I believed he had solid footing in the areas of both fascism and archetypal spirituality, so when I was censored off Instagram I joined the platform he's most closely associated with (Thinkspot). I was shocked as Plandemic continued and grew (and all evidence mounted) yet he didn't post a word about Plandemic in any way, shape, or form; nor did he encourage or promote any writing about it. For almost two years, Plandemic didn't exist on Thinkspot. Some of us noted it constantly in total bewilderment. I eventually left Thinkspot due to its stubborn, self-inflicted blindness.
How did the guy who publicly called himself "an expert in totalitarianism" (his words) entirely miss a globalist attack of biotech totalitarianism on humanity?
Plandemic hit around the same time as his benzo injury, and he was sick and recovering. But as soon as he returned to the public eye he urged and admonished his massive legions of followers (coincidentally mostly comprised of young men, which is the demographic hardest hit by the killshot) to, "Just get the damn shot so we can all go back to normal!" On video. Many of us discussed it and were properly horrified.
Also, in a long Dave Rubin convo (you can find on Rubin's Youtube) at around the same time, he praised Justin Trudeau's work on the "climate crisis" and spoke animatedly about a plum invite he received to sit on a UN climate panel. On that convo and others, he disparaged "conspiracy types" (his words) when discussing "the pandemic".
Meanwhile, back in reality, all thinking Canadians understood exactly what Trudeau, "climate crisis" ,and "covid pandemic" were about. What reality is Peterson in?
Peterson can be as stupid or as purchased as he likes. His legions of fans can fall at his feet now that he's back to his pre-benzo fame. However, I mourn the injuries and deaths of the young men who naïvely thought he was a truth-teller, and got their killshots at his behest.
So, everyone's a "psy-op", except Peterson gets a pass? Enjoy him. :-)
In respect of Kirsch & Malone (which seems to be your underlying contention with me) I have an ongoing battle with those two which you seem to have missed.
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/the-us-tip-of-the-spear-is-blunt
You come across very aggressively and a bit of a mess yourself.
In your initial comment you generously stated "But I don't think he's CO, I just think he's human, complex, and a mess. Everyone whose profile rises reveals themselves. Doesn't mean they're psy-ops and controlled opposition."
Then you ignore that the long term benzo addiction occurred because of stress related to his wife's health and then you proceed to point out that his judgement remains severely impaired. Did you miss my point that I do not think Peterson is controlling the opposition or a psyops?
Are you here to create discord?
If not, you seem to be a natural.
No, I've been perfectly nice. And perfectly factual on every front. I've followed him from Day 1 and "ignore" nothing. You're very triggered for someone who lauds free speech. Cheers. :-)
Triggered? No love..... aware. I think your underlying seethe is showing.
You're no intuitive.
Anyone, and/or any type of media/medium, that refuses to debate openly and allow FREE debate of the events unfolding worldwide has already LOST any debate. The 'cancel culture' is simply a manifestation of the totalitarian nature of the psycho's driving events since 2020, and reflective of the fact that EVERYTHING they're doing has NO scientific basis and is a PURPOSE DRIVEN SCAM. 'Cancel culture' simply exposes the psycho's FRAUD now unfolding. So, we can bet for 100% CERTAIN, that the online media platforms you mention cancelling you, ARE PART OF THE FRAUD. Most likely, 100% bought and paid for by Schwab/Gates and co.
As an old fart who declined robotic laparoscopic surgery, at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, after having gone through the MRI, and then finding out what it was going to cost me after BCBS chipped in their tens of thousands, I have to agree with JP that we should have Poop Pride Month! (Or was he just being sarcastic? If so, I am offended and I ban him from my phone!)
100 years ago, it was common for a man of say 30/40/50 years old to marry a woman of say 15 years old. This was common. Has that changed? What has changed? How? Public opinion? Or is it ok for men to marry women half their age, as long as the women is say 18? 21? Somewhere in here, there is the power of social movements to affect our long term mores (moralities). Best from OR
My personal beliefs also understand that women have been giving birth by sexual maturity through the ages. Watching the stigma of one or two fellow highschool students, (back in the 1990s') it made 'being pregnant while a teenager' worse than ....many things, horrid looking to me due to constant embarassment and trying to hide the pregnancies. Never made sense to me, when its sort of like perfectly natural, for at least some women, to have kids while 'too young'. I think choosing a career over kids is fine too, but when women have careers and kids I think it is usually hard on both parties. I grew up in that situation, there was material wealth but constantly exhausted parent who then died too young. Other factors like the theft of our wealth certainly play in over these last 40 years, like a hole in the bucket, makeing all parties need to work. Peace
Yeah, I get it. No argument here.
Okay, after I watched the video: YEAH! I can totally understand why JP Sears likes Jordan Peterson so much... Now, so do I. I admit, I've never seen him before, but even though I've never been much of a Twitter person, I MAY have seen something he wrote, who knows.
But WOW, what an EXCELLENT unveiling of the stupid, incoherent, nasty, "woke" BULLSHIT that is being served up to young people and encouraging, as so aptly put, a severe and bizarre response to the embarrassment and discomfort WE ALL FEEL as adolescents. Predatory much?
GREAT POST, to get this video OUT! Thank you, Fran!
Perfect. I recognize those medals, and congratulate you! xo