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Frances Leader's avatar

The burden of being deep in a shallow world.

Feeling too much is not a weakness — it's depth in a shallow world. In this video, we explore Carl Jung's psychology, existential philosophy, and the emotional impact of living with intensity in a superficial society. If you feel out of place, emotionally exhausted, and want to understand your deep sensitivity, this video is for you.

https://youtu.be/8A8RQoWKdlo

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Cheerio's avatar

I'm attempting to sort out whether there are more than two types of human beings - empaths and narcissists is all I've come up with... those who feel with compassion and attempt to recalibrate balance and those who take for their own sakes.

Any thoughts on this?

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Frances Leader's avatar

The only time I have been shocked by extreme shallowness, to the point of having to complain about it, I was with my mum and my best friend only days after my husband chose to leave me for another woman. They were saying that I should toughen up and move on.... he wasn't good enough for me anyway.... etc. I had to point out that both of them were assuming a shallowness of feeling when the reality, for me, was deep shock and hurt which would take years to get over. It was then THEIR turn to be shocked, because they did not see my depth of feeling as a strength... they saw it as a weakness until I pointed out the shallowness they were expecting from me was clearly indicative of their own shallow sentiments.

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Cheerio's avatar

Sending love…

These hurts and betrayals are what makes the rebel in us rise up and then the warrioress… the archetypes of our natural evolutions…

I’m grateful to have spent some time learning de-programming techniques and also how to let things go for the sake of freedom above all else…

happy to assist if any of that history is still sticking in any way.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Nah! I had 3 long term relationships, all of which tore lumps out of me! When I decided to stay single my life became pretty rosy, tbh! I realised that I had been a sugar-mummy for the men in my life. I was too capable and so they tended to lean on me heavily without showing much appreciation.

As soon as I was on my own (with pets) I found my feet, ploughed my own field and lost interest in relationships. I am now 73 and happy.

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Cheerio's avatar

I resemble that experience, until my latest relationship, which has given me a real eye opening to what true love and support feels like.

Blessings to our paths as they are... it sounds like we have found the path of most ease and or least resistance, however one would wish to frame this ...

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Feeling all the time can be bad. Feeling deeply, probably not.

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Howdy Franz! ...How's things in the Burrow?

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Frances Leader's avatar

I would love to know which 'bad' moments you refer to, because for me, feeling all the time is unavoidable. Surely not feeling is death?

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Death .....Or a career in the public service.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

I was thinking of the danger of addiction and self-indulgence. In other words the misuse of a useful thing - feeling.

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Not misuse ..surely an instinctive and not considered behavior?

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Cheerio's avatar

you may want to consider my above question, as the element of self-indulgence brings up the narcissist for me.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

I hope I was not being glib but I was tired. Late at night here and blurry shackle (cellphone) screen. However, your question is a fair one. I believe that narcissist and empath are simply two more dualities, but may, at the same time be on one, possibly linear, continuum. I am not a Buddhist so I do not think that duality somehow proves illusion, Maya, deception, to be escaped from. I think dualities are simply how we navigate the structure of the universe and consciousness.

Sorry to use big words but I am an amateur philosopher so I am fishing a bit for them.

Palm Sunday approaches when, from a certain angle, dualities, or even parallel lines of dualities on different experiential levels create interesting ideas and patterns. Christ, Pilate, Judas, God, Satan on the individual level, Romans, jews, Pharisees, Disciples, soldiers on the societal level. Light, Darkness, Good, Evil, Higher, lower (in no particular order) on the hierarchical and ethical plane or level.

And so on.

My favorite duality, if I have to pick one is psychopath - normie.

On that (psychological?) continuum appears something like sociopath, possibly narcissist as well. I guess you could make up dualities by finding corresponding opposites or near opposites.

Good and Evil are to me the overarching duality. Tolstoy used that very elegantly I believe in War and Peace. "If evil men can work together to get what they want, then so can good men, to get what they want."

Sorry if I talked rubbish, but hopefully something useful will come of the ramble above.

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Cheerio's avatar

Thank goodness for philosophical minds... amateur or well versed, this will mean to me a return of openness and creativity.

blessings to you on your journey...

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Very provocative! You bring together so many strands, Frances.

I wonder if Fu Xi was a she. I've been reading When God Was a Woman, which was true for 9500 years. It's been a mere 1500 since God's sex change operation. The serpent was God's consort and symbol. The earth was represented as male. Property ownership was matrilineal and children belonged to their mother. Women invented agriculture and writing. The walled city is the womb, and the conquest of it is rape.

And the fruit of the tree of 'knowledge of good and evil' is judgment. Men judge people as good or evil, then decide if their ideas and actions are right or wrong. Eve didn't eat the fruit, Adam did and then judged Eve evil with her serpent. And then usurped her role and her dragon for himself. Domination, rule over others, belongs to the mother for the purpose of giving the child power over themselves. 'Sub-mission'--wouldn't that translate as underhanded?

I think that Emperor Wen changed the discernment of Fu Xi into judgment and domination by a dynasty, and the timing matches when this was being done by the Heka Khasut--black magic usurpers--in Egypt.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Goodness me! It is interesting to speculate that the Dragon was female!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

And I corrected that 'creative' spelling of your name as 'Frandes' ;-)

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Nathan's avatar

Awareness, That which is Being never changes. It Lives ALL things, the hue-man body inclusive, It, Being, Awareness, Life does the Living. The hue-mand mind is a collection of thoughts thinking: its so called mind (hueing to Man) is a collection of thoughts, judgements, conditioning and memories all based in the illusion that time/space exists and is real.

A State of no-mind, transcenental meditation Reveals this.

True Mind is timeless, a State of Here/Now wherein Only Life/Being is Revealed to be the Only State and what is deemed as time/space, human existance is but a dream, like a dream one seemed to have last night.

This is all written in Scripture, but Alone the Experiental Experience of this is Only Known to the One that seems to take this path, led by the Inner Spirit/Life Being.

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Man made the waterfall over the dam

To temper his tantrum with magic.

........Declan McManus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAxqaVSgPes

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voza0db's avatar

EVERYTHING CHANGES... except the Degenerate Uman Thought.

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John Day MD's avatar

What I discovered with a bit of a shock, when consulting the I Ching is that it answers the important question in your life, not the question you compose for it...

Don't do this casually.

It has been a few decades since I consulted it, but I presume that it is ready to go if I need to.

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Never seen the book myself, but I expect the person who wrote it was trying to explain the sign and semiotic in big nature, and readers missed the point in the babble of hieroglyphs.

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John Day MD's avatar

Used book stores will have it.

Give it a try...

If You Dare!

;-}

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

I cut to the chase and read the dictionary...All the words are in there. ;-)

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John Day MD's avatar

You dare-not, then?

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Ah! ..the inference of the dare ultimatum.

OK, I dare you to sell me on it..

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Marten's avatar

For years (now 75)...I used to believe that "one day the Masses (Sheeple) will rise up and take down the tyranny "....I now understand how deluded that idea is, it;s only a minority that is discerning enough to see the nature of the Control System, for what it is and what has truly shocked me, is to have watch very intelligent and well respected "Academics", become some of the most ignorant, hateful, gutless Cowards I've ever imagined !!!!!!

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Some duality looks to the insect colony....All the Queens, drones, soldiers and workers.

Human evolution has a long way to go before knowledge of mortality can be accepted reasonably.

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Frances Leader's avatar

I agree with that, Marten. I knew a lot of activists all my adult life but they seem to have vanished this decade.

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dallas's avatar

Loved this Frances.

"What you seek is seeking you" Something for you when you get 5mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXOG_NUNQhc

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

This seems to be from a parallel universe ...

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Is it visible on your right or your left?

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Azimut 57.5, inclination about 70 degrees ...

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Nutation noted.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Wish you undisturbed, clear skies ...

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

They are clearer this morning ..

Last night was the Local Show and bull riding championships ..in intermittent heavy rain showers.

They kept riding the bulls, riding the merry-go-rounds and go karts in the pouring rain and the fireworks blasted on through the wet night sky.

The band played on to the wee hours as the cowgirls and boys went through their mating rituals.....Yehah!

Wish you a gradual, rather than a sudden axial shift...

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Nathan's avatar

"nothing is permanent but change."

Even that is not an Absolute, so by definition there is no Reality/Permanence to change. The hue-man mind thinks what it thinks has validity, yet it is forever changing its thoughts, a state of non permanence/reality.

If it changes it is not Real/Permanent. That which does not change is Real/Permanent, that which is Aware of change.

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Susanne Lawson's avatar

pretty much right on!

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Michael Lewis Kahn's avatar

Thank you so much for the wisdom. I have wanted to dominate over the evil I see and to eradicate it, and need to remember that submission of respect to some of whom I am not sure if they are righteous or evil is necessary at times. Domination is not my goal, but eradication of evil is. Remembering that there is good in some evil and the duality of actions and appearances is necessary to be mindful of. Thanks again for the reality check.

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Cheerio's avatar

I resonate with this also and feel this is the path of the nurturers spirit...

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peter lockwood's avatar

Is the Creator science????

The everything and anything through out anywhere and everywhere

Between the Alpha and Omega exists the No thing

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Frances Leader's avatar

Well done, Peter! Your vulgarity just earned you a block.

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

He's in love with you. 🤣

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Nomen est omen: LOCKwood ...🤣🤣🤣

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poetinapaperbag's avatar

Or are you just glad to see me? 🤣🤣🤣

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Michael Lewis Kahn's avatar

Frances, I am not aware of what Lockwood said, but at times I use cusswords to evil and unrighteous people, it is at times my means of expression. Does that indicate being wrong? To be blocked because one used what you consider a wrong method of communication contradicts what your post's message seemed to convey.

Of course I don't know what Lockwood communicated, but I have recently been blocked elsewhere by somebody who literally tried to bring me into hell, had been a phony pastor of a congregation who had all been participating in stealing all my income, manipulating me into having sex (an entrance to hell), abandoning me, etc.. and I cussed him, and was blocked.

I feel absolutely no wrongdoing, fully justified, and not needing his approval in any way.

Of course that is no reflection on you, and probably not your motivation nor Lockwoods, but why the block? Because you have "Virgin" ears? You never heard a cuss word? YOu are above his mode of communication?

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Cheerio's avatar

She had very good cause for vulgarity... imho.

I've questioned for a long time the design behind us losing our ability to debate openly and here, a friend talks about the 'healthy argument' https://substack.com/@sappermarc/note/p-150853537?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=1b895l

There are also ways that Matt Ehret speaks of the inspire the optimal balance and creative spirit when one uplifts the process in an open system vs a closed system - this is foundational material to comprehend our abilities to be knowledgeable versus 'well learned' within the limits of confined materia and data

https://youtu.be/qZ7736vqyFk?si=32Ad_hzUi6rmzBug

I truly believe that humanity can find balance with quality of living and creating development that supports a higher standard of living, with reciprocity to nature.

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sue's avatar

Beautiful!

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Karafree's avatar

Love the message, the great thinkers who dared to consider and employ their own imaginations to discover what is possible in this reality we find ourselves forever exploring and creating, or bringing forward.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Whatever ghastly and deranged manual the current crop of world rulers are using it needs to be burned and scrubed from history....along with the rulers using it.

We do not need masters since that implies we are slaves. We do not need leaders since that implies we are lost. We do not need human gods as that implies humans should endlessly worship them.

For practical living, as we are born into the world and its societies, we can live in them but not be a part of them. Engaging in society psychologically is to join in its insanity.

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Cheerio's avatar

Inspiring message!

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Karafree's avatar

We do not need masters when we realize the power of our own minds. It is these rulers who control our own thoughts and limit our perception...but more and more of us are seeing the power that each if us has to use our own gifts of thought to imagine in a new world to change what is currently taking place.

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