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Kirsten's avatar

This geoengineering site is also a great one, and the documentary the dimming is very accessible for people who don't know anything about weather manipulation or geoengineering.

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-dimming-full-length-climate-engineering-documentary/

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The Word Herder's avatar

I'd also say that water should never be "owned" by anyone but the Earth. There has been a movement, behind the scenes, of course, to "buy up" all the rights to water, over the globe, by the oligarchy/Parasite Class, who want to continue their agenda of genocide.

OBVIOUSLY, if I have all the water and all the food, you will die if I want you to.

We are watching, almost like we are utterly clueless, all these things going on, for decades now, that will end up with us being forced to get off our ass, as it were, and put a stop to this insanity going on.

Pay attention, peeps: The land is being bought up, the food is being hidden/destroyed, the Earth is being sprayed with toxic elements, we are being poisoned with a variety of means, including radiation... THIS IS SOME SERIOUS SHIT. The first step to being healthy is to get rid of the poisons... We can start with getting rid of those that are actively poisoning US, and spread out from there. We need to find a way to detox aluminum...

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Being Bonnie's avatar

In three words: it is war.

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Paul Riley's avatar

Many rivers are kept artificially high in summer by taking water from deep below the earth and putting it in the rivers.

I would pump 8000lts/min from 40 pumping stations across East Anglia for weeks in summer to stop the rivers from looking like Australian creeks, it keeps the conservationists happy and allows the population to take a shit in peace.

Maybe they've got a problem with the pumps this year, geoengineering solutions incoming!

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The Word Herder's avatar

Wait-- are you saying "geoengineering solutions" sarcastically?

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Frances Leader's avatar

Too many deep aquifers and primary water resources are now owned by the Black Nobility and their various corporate lackeys. They are with-holding our birthrights as usual.

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The Word Herder's avatar

They don't get to be gods just because they WANT to be gods. Nobody should OWN water. It's just not on. Natural law is the ticket.

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Question Everything's avatar

I mean.... since you follow the work of Ben Davidson, I would say its both. However, the assumed definition of "climate change" appears to be along the lines of "this is everyone's fault and you must suffer as a result" - i.e. "YOU VILL EAT ZE BUGS & BE HAPPY!" This is obviously problematic for several reasons. Everyone knows we have a severe pollution problem, yet that word has mysteriously disappeared from everyone's vocabulary (um... plastic Island anyone? What about the shit at the bottom of the Mariana trench?)

Anyway, I started to go on a tangent about pollution & "recycling", and although that is a MAJOR factor that doesn't get enough attention... I deleted it because it really doesn't matter in this context.

What matters is that our poles are OBVIOUSLY shifting - gearing up for their inevitable reversal. Some of Ben's (and others within that area of research) other topics & predictions are way over my head - and some of it im skeptical of how true/accurate it is. Let's face it, there are a ton of conflicting ideas out there and it can be difficult to make heads or tails of it. But it does seem very likely that the poles are moving, and earth's changes are speeding up exponentially. The geo-magnetic field is weakening. Could there be some other explanation for these changes that we can measure that doesn't result in a cataclysmic event? Maybe, i guess?

But then when you start going down the "history is a lie"/Tartaria/Mud-flood rabbit hole - which is a completely separate topic - it seems more & more plausible, since "something" has happened before. There are patterns, and once those patterns become recognizable, well, you can kinda see where this is going.

So yes, although humans play a major role here - between geo-engineering & pollution in every form.... I think much of the "climate change" shit is WAY out of our control. Even if we miraculously stopped all forms of pollution tomorrow, and miraculously figured out how to do geo-engineering without the negative downstream impacts that we can't control (lol I know. That was never the goal)... I don't think any of it would matter whatsoever. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am. Because otherwise, the "disaster cycle" seems like it may very well happen within our lifetime.

Once people make peace with this, maybe we can actually be more productive... collectively.... as a group. Instead of the vast majority who are still wasting time on shit like believing we can solve anything with voting in SElections, through legislation, and whatnot. Lol. What a joke.

Anyway, im done rambling. Im fucking exhausted. 4 hours of sleep every night is taking a toll on me. Forgive my shitty attitude. I'm grumpy 😂

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João Alface's avatar

I think the upvotes say it all. 💪🏻

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The Word Herder's avatar

Until I see REPUTABLE experts, and vast armies of them, telling us that The End Is Near, I refuse to believe it.

Funny how since the end of WWII, which is, in the timeline of Earth as an entity, a fraction of a fraction of a second, SUDDENLY we have a major influx of fake virus pandemics, the sun is freaking out, the Earth is "warming," the poles are shifting... Maybe the poles are shifting a bit, but ARE THEY REALLY? And if so, does that mean we should all become hybridized mutant slaves? Or let the Freak god-Wannabes continue to destroy our Blue Marble (Marvel)?

Answer: Oh, HELL, NO.

I think there is a NEVER-ENDING LOAD OF BULLSHIT ISSUING FROM THE GLOBBIES TRYING TO SCARE US AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

I'm not interested in their bullshit. I don't believe it. SHOW ME THE PROOF, after you/we/I follow the money.

What I DO believe is that there is an effort, by a very teeny tiny minority of batshit insane, filthy rich freaks who want to rule the world, to take over and kill us off down to a weeny little crowd of terrified cowards they can stand on while they preen themselves. Because nobody with any sense of self-worth, freedom, autonomy, Goodness, righteousness, or any of the other Good Things About Humans, is going to give up on what is RIGHT.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Nothing to forgive... ramble away! xx

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João Alface's avatar

In my personal point of view it's the latter.

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BonosMullet84's avatar

It’s out in the open. Take a look at this:

https://pilotcareercenter.com/Air-Carrier-PCC-Profile/3674/Weather-Modification-Int'l

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Frances Leader's avatar

Yep! Not even remotely shy about their efforts, are they?

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The Word Herder's avatar

Because they're shitting themselves, and hiding is too stinky, not enough air circulation.

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Pearl's avatar

I don't understand how they say it's the worst drought in 500 years - obviously it wasn't people and industry causing the drought 500 years ago, so our so-called "climate change solutions" are obviously not targeting the real cause. Am I missing something?

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denis bider's avatar

It's obviously geoengineering (and malicious).

The Dimming - 2021 documentary by Geoengineering Watch:

https://odysee.com/@Calentannerlightheart:8/The-Dimming%2C-Full-Length-Climate-Engineering-Documentary-%28-Geoengineering-Watch-%29:9

Wildfires as a weapon (recent):

https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/Wildfires-as-a-Weapon---US-Military-Exposed:7

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The Word Herder's avatar

They've been practicing with their new weapons for a while now... 9/11, wildfires, targeted EMF's, graphene hydroxide... And yes, indeed, malicious.

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Christine's avatar

To we mere mortals, does it matter who or what is causing climate change? It is happening and we have to live with it. So how do we live with it? We have a similar issue with whether or not covid is a virus. For those, whether vaccinated or not, who are dying of it, it is very real. So how do they survive whatever it is, to live another day or two?

Many of us know that "they" are causing both and much else besides, and we know that humanity, in general, has proven itself incapable of stopping them. At best we can resist, and mostly we can only adapt.

I live in a borderline area between different climatic zones, subtropical to the north, sclerophyll to the south and mountainous to the west. When a system shifts a little to the north or a little to the south, or if rain comes in off the sea from the east instead of coming from the west, the growing season changes dramatically. In fact, the seasons between subtropical and sclerophyll are opposite. So even for your personal vegetable garden you have no idea, from one year to the next, what to plant. You need to know what season it is going to rain, as most summer vegetables and fruit that ripen in hot dry weather will rot in hot wet weather.

I am just being pragmatic here. No matter who or what is doing this shit, we are not stopping it, so we have no choice but to adapt. Same as with supposed covid. No matter whether or not it is caused by a virus, it is still killing us. We have no choice but to adapt.

But, instead of working out the most effective way of adapting, we keep bickering about whether it exists or not. YES, there most definitely is climate change that we must adapt to or starve. YES there most definitely is some disease out there that is still killing the un-vaccinated as well as the jabbed, with symptoms attributed to something they are calling covid. We must learn what it is so we can treat it, or die. Simple.

I am so tired of my near death with what is called covid being denied, or at best, blamed on something I did or didn't do.

Am I the only un-vaxxed human being who nearly died of the symptoms being called covid? Or is everyone else who caught it from an un-vaxxed state too afraid of the disdain and contempt of both the un-vaxxed and the vaxxed alike, to admit it publicly. I have not had dialogue with anyone else in the entire world who was unvaxxed and got whatever it is. So I have no-one in the entire world to share the journey of working out what it really is and how to really treat it. Really? Am I that alone? Or is everyone else intimated out of talking about it for fear of ridicule or blame?

Same with climate change. Am I that alone? Or is everyone else being intimidated out of talking about how their crops are failing, how they are losing entire harvests, and how they have no idea what to plant any more?

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Frances Leader's avatar

My son and I are both unvaccinated and had Covid. It was nasty but we tackled it with herbal medicine, as we always do and we recovered.

I understand the point you are making Christine.

Even if we knew precisely what caused it, we could not stop it. Same applies to climate change.

If we look at history, it would appear that this regular culling has never been stopped by human effort. We are like sitting ducks and the predator class KNOWS it.

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João Alface's avatar

What if all this is a test to the masses? What if they're pushing it over the limit to see if we're willing to stand up and fight them back?

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Being Bonnie's avatar

I don't believe it's an unwillingness to fight them back, in fact 'they' appear to be preparing for resistance [gun control efforts, arming IRS and FEMA agents in the US, etc.]

The COVID Con proved, to some degree, that 'they' can capture us in a net of fear- with lots of concerted bullshit and sleight of hand.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Fear is the thing. Lose that, and we win, regardless.

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Frances Leader's avatar

They increase the pressure until we do fight back and then they declare martial law. That is the end of freedom.

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João Alface's avatar

As long as we are predictable.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Guerrilla warfare always has been indefatigable.

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João Alface's avatar

Hehe exactly.

👍🏻💪🏻👊🏻

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The Word Herder's avatar

Noses drip all the time. :)

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João Alface's avatar

"To we mere mortals, does it matter who or what is causing climate change? It is happening and we have to live with it"

Really? It doesn't make much difference to you? If you know where is coming from we stand a chance to fight it back. Or at least try to. If it would be natural we would not stand a chance but if it's manmade we can fight the cause.

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The Word Herder's avatar

You said it. I agree with it.

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Christine's avatar

No we can't. Australia burned then Australia flooded. Australia is regularly covered to a whiteout level with chem trails. Australia has blanket WiFi. What did you do to stop it? What do you suggest I do to stop it?

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The Word Herder's avatar

This is the issue, isn't it? What do we do? So far, we haven't done that much. Writing things on social media is fine, if action of some kind follows. I don't promote violence, because that ends up bringing back violence on ourselves. But lookit, we outnumber these fuckers by BILLIONS. There are many, many things we can do, but we've only JUST BEGUN to do ANYTHING... farmers protesting, truckers protesting, we need this kind of thing in MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE numbers, regularly, and non-compliance as a way of life. We've only just begun. Chin up, because it's going to take some serious shit to get everyone on their feet.

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João Alface's avatar

Look at current covid vaccination numbers. Winter is coming in Europe and North America. Just wait for it. So far we've been mostly spectators. It's time to play game in the pitch.

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Question Everything's avatar

At bare minimum, knowledge is more powerful than most people realize. So I tend to agree with João here.

I used to have the same attitude you have Christine. And then hearing other peoples opinions provided me with different insight and I changed my mind.

Even if someone doesn't physically have the ability to "stop" it.... there is power in numbers.

Informing oneself is step 1. And then having discussions with & trying to inform others is step 2. "The people" have risen up and made significant positive change in the past and it can happen again.

The Great thing about humanity is that we have hope. (And I also say that with caution because "hopium" can certainly be problematic too.) Imagine if everyone realized that germ theory is utter bullshit. Just imagine the impact that would have.... now apply that to everything.

Even if all you can do right now is inform yourself, stay thirsty for truth & knowledge, and plant little seeds with other people to help wake them up... you'd be surprised at how significant that can be on an exponential scale.

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Christine's avatar

And that is hopium. What is mankind DOING differently to get a different result? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And yes, I am shouting, with frustration at human unwillingnes to face reality. When do we stop with the hopium?

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The Word Herder's avatar

Not all hope is "hopium." Why are you listening to the negativity? Sometimes we have to make a CHOICE to think positively. This is WAR. Have you ever been in a war before? Me, neither. We're going to have to be very strong, very brave, and VERY HOPEFUL. Lose hope, you might as well just lie down and die.

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Question Everything's avatar

There is a distinct difference between hopium and having hope my friend.

Furthermore, expectations should be put into perspective. I dont ever expect "mankind" as a whole to do anything.

Again. Inform yourself. Thirst for knowledge. That is what drives evolution. And then plant seeds with others. There is clearly some sort of mass awakening going on right now which is something to be celebrated.

I understand your frustration and your anger. I often find myself there too. I often "give up" on those who haven't "figured it out yet". But then things happen around me that make me realize it is a process.

If we didn't have hope, we would give up. If we give up collectively, then what is there to live for?

Find your motivation. Find things that give you hope (not hopium). Find things that give you purpose & drive. This will be a process too.

For me, after researching germ theory, the next logical thing I became intrigued with with was nature. Its truly fascinating when you begin to understand the intelligent design (or whatever you wanna call it). And nature always wins. Nature is the answer. We need to work on our relationship with nature and find the beauty in life again....

Nature provides answers & solutions.

I hope you find something to light that fire again....

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Christine's avatar

OK, I will forgive your patronising tone and allow you to prove your point.

Currently we are ALL "educating" ourselves and we hope or imagine that we are educating others. That's a lot of "educators". I have been educating others since the 1970s. It's a long haul. So please let's get some numbers on this.

What percentage of the population do we need to educate for change of some kind to come about?

Is there any evidence that the percentage of the population that is "educated" is increasing, or even if the overall standard of "education" is increasing? (Is there really a mass awakening going on or is belief in that part of the hopium?)

Let us imagine that both the numbers and the standard are increasing - and have increased since the 1970s (which I myself doubt but I am happy to be proven wrong), at what point do we stop educating and decide we know enough and have the numbers to take some kind of action?

If a point in time comes when we do decide we are sufficiently resourced to act, exactly what do we do?

Do we act politically? Do we hang the current mob of traitors as so many men (in Australia at least) are calling for, and if so, who do we replace them with? Do we destroy all the current institutions that they own, such as politics, law, church, military, education, health et al and replace them with models that support all sentient life? If so, are you aware of good models that have been developed?

Do we simply opt out and go our own way? Well, we know there will be repercussions from the state and their hired enforcers (the politicians, the public servants, the police and the military), if we do try to take either action against them or simply opt out. In Australia at least, they have closed all the doors through which we could once opt out, meaning that our actions even with simply opting out will be illegal. How do we support those who are arrested, how do we support those whose bank accounts are shut down, how do we medically assist those who have been subject to serious environmental poisoning (from jabs, chemtrails, wifi etc)?

And no matter what course of action we choose to take, how many of us are prepared to risk death, injury and imprisonment to follow through when the "authorities" decide to stop us? And how many who are not prepared to risk death, injury and imprisonment will dedicate their incomes and other resources to supporting those who are?

We have never, in the history of humankind, fought a war like this. We are failing to even recognise that it is a war that has been declared on us. And, if we do not recognise the seriousness and the exact nature of what we are facing, we have no hope in hell of stopping "them".

Yes, nature always wins. But mankind is a very recent aberration on this planet. The chances of mankind surviving this are minimal if we do not stop being so damned anthropocentric and fantasizing that nature or ETs, or some magical evolutionary process will save us. The genocide is well underway, and no amount of "education" is going to stop it.

We need new thinking, new intuitions, new processes, new relationships... and that's just a start.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Informing ourselves is forearming ourselves. It is sensible to prepare for the worst but hope for the best. Mankind includes every single person on earth. We cannot work as an integrated team, even with communications as good as we have now so don't expect mankind to do anything but defend itself on an individual level.

The internet is being hacked to death. Soon it will be impossible to communicate ideas at all. Therefore, personal preparedness at a local level and self defence is all that will be available when the shit hits the fan.

When I lived on the mountains of central Spain we were subject to flash fires which would eat up huge areas and fill the atmosphere with smoke.

I trained all my animals to follow me. Every day throughout the winters I would go into the forest to gather firewood. My horse, two dogs, cat, chickens and cockerel would all follow me willingly as soon as I loaded my chainsaw onto the wheelbarrow. So, when the fires got within a mile of my property, I loaded the wheelbarrow and away we would walk, down the river bank and off the mountain.

They loved going on these excursions. The villagers called me Pocohontas! But it would have saved their lives if we had been unlucky enough to be burned out.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I LOVE that! Maybe I can train my neighbors like that...

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Christine's avatar

Are you this well prepared now?

If the genocide proceeds as it appears to be planned, there will be a total social and economic breakdown, so we hippies from the 60s and survivalists from the 70s will come into our own if we are not too old.

Have you successfully embedded yourself in a supportive local community of the "awake and aware"? I haven't. I find the self styled "awake and aware" hopelessly naive and boringly competitive.

Have you stockpiled enough to last you for how long? I have about a month which is all I can fit in a one bedroom upstairs flat with no garden. No guns or baked beans for me.

Or are you perhaps a "skills prepper" willing to gamble on knowing enough to be worth keeping alive? That's my hope. I hope I know enough about foraging for food and medicine locally to be worth saving. And I can darn a sock, or repair a bridle.

Age catches up to us all. I have had my three score and ten, so am now into bonus time, but I don't much fancy dying of hunger or thirst, or burning in a bushfire, or drowning in a flood. They would all be nasty ways to go.

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Question Everything's avatar

Lol I can just picture you walking through the forrest with a wheel barrow and a parade of animals behind you. And I LOVE that imagery 😂👏👏👏 its the simple things sometimes....

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João Alface's avatar

What we as individuals may do is to keep talking on a daily basis with much people we can about it. Keep spreading the word and sharing all the info we can about it. It doesn't seem much but when we get the majority on our side, then we do some real action. If not, then all one can do is try to protect somehow himself and closest family.

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João Alface's avatar

Unless you have special forces background there's not much you can do by yourself alone.

In this issue only the masses joining forces together may change history course.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I'd be very, very surprised if this event didn't turn the world around and start up the next paradigm, one of PEACE and HEALTH and getting back to HEART.

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Som's avatar

My family got covid but we all fared ok. We did use IM & nebulized hydrogen peroxide. My daughter ended up with a sick stomach for quite some time and my son was sick longer than my husband or me. The 4 y/o and infant didn’t get it, my oldest was sick for half a day.

My dad recently got it and it was an annoying cold, but his partner got it and it was much harsher on her. She couldn’t eat or keep anything down and luckily they found someone to come to their house to give fluids a few times.

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Will B's avatar

On the last Saturday of June, 25 June 2022, I mentioned that for the first time I had witnessed long spiral chemtrails overhead. My prediction of storms didn’t pan out locally. But to the northeast, Kentucky and Ohio had tornadoes that weekend. The local weather in Tennessee got hot and dry from those final days of June till August. The chem planes were nowhere to be seen till the weather started to dip down into the 80’s and 70’s at night; now in August they are back with a vengeance; enough rain to reawaken the parched flora, leaving windrows of wet heavy grass after mowing between storms.

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The Word Herder's avatar

If I could choose just ONE thing being done right now, and END IT, it would be those gd chem trails.

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Will B's avatar

Agree. The corkscrew spiral ones really caught my attention.

While mowing this past weekend, they were busy with the plain old straight line junk. And it is worth noting that I started seeing a shine on grass stalks and tree leaves. I did not notice it when I began, and then rather abruptly it was there. Still. 5 days later. Weird.

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I totally disagree with the idea that there are no lasting effects of chem trails. Are you reading that somewhere? I strongly question this because I have been reading about this for about 2 decades now, and not only is there ample evidence that plant life is suffering mightily from continual spraying of heavy metals such as barium, strontium, aluminum, etc., but these substances are also getting into the water supply, into the bodies of wildlife, and pretty much poisoning vast areas of the Earth. There is a LOT of tree die-off where I live, and there is evidence that plankton is being affected, badly, and if plankton dies, so do we, according to experts I've seen in various places-- One very good source of information is a movie called "The Dimming." I strongly recommend it, and the man who has been steadfastly keeping tabs on all this, Dane Wiggington, has been telling us the perils of chem trails for a looooong time, and only recently are people beginning to wake up... This is part of the plan to create scarcity, to give the ILLUSION of climate change, and to poison whatever can be poisoned.

Here's a link to "The Dimming" and the website for Wiggington, Geoengineering Watch:

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-dimming-full-length-climate-engineering-documentary/

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Frances Leader's avatar

Destroying forests seems to be one of their favourite hobbies.... that was one of the reasons why the Celts hated the Romans who invaded Britain.

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wörterbuch's avatar

Hross sayeth the natives of Britain and Europe lived in forests and earth huts. Then came the pharistocracy and pissmarked the natives land with castles, churches and christianity. The natives were pissed off seeing their natural lands defiled!

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Frances Leader's avatar

Who knows? The signs are there to say that a previous very advanced civilisations had greater technology than we have now. It need not have been extra-terrestrial.

https://youtu.be/tFlAFo78xoQ

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Frances Leader's avatar

Love that little clip. The whole conversations were epic! Thanks for adding a clip here.

https://youtu.be/0H5LCLljJho

https://youtu.be/tFlAFo78xoQ

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