As we creep ever closer to totalitarian globalism and digital ID, get your head around this amazing battle with red tape that Brits have to endure! Curious? Read on!
A friend was needing a pension forecast so was asked to create an online government portal account which is needed to access tax, pension and many other government departments. After providing all the information asked for there was a problem with the list of verifiable identification. She didn’t have driving licence, passport or any of the other documents on the list making it impossible to comply with the criteria for the online account. I think a lot of people will fall into this category.
Has your son done any taught courses in the last few years? A teacher might be eligible/willing to sign provided the course was at least two years ago.
It is sad to hear such stories. A one would think the modern technology would be helpful and fast. But unfortunately the "computer says no" is just happening more often. For the sake of informing people but not criticising I would like to share my experience of recent re-new of the passport. I used paper application and post office service for sending. It costed 109 GBP in total including 16 GBP for post office service. It surprisingly took one week to get a passport (09-Apr till 16-Apr). I was surprised how fast it was. I would recommend still to use it. One other reason to do paper application - instead of your high quality digital picture in their database, they would still scan an old good photo image. So, there is less of your biometrics in digital format in their hands to work with.
I am sure, Francis, the pasport saga will end successfully. It is just annoying to deal with all these "permits to travel from one prison to another" matters once in a while. All the best!
Horrid but try having dual nationality and that other nationality being US….. now, try to get a passport or open a bank account when you live overseas……
At first I thought this was a complete joke until I was assured it was not.
As stated this is what happens when people simply go along with things and just shrug your shoulders and try comply. It is unbelievable! I actually thought the country concerned was China or north Korea and not the UK. People really need to sort this nonsense out and soon otherwise you will be stuck on an island .
Done on purpose to pursue digital ID as the solution to make life easier.
What makes it more of a mockery is allowing all and sundry into the country without checks and handing out passports to them like smarties.
I’m married to an industrial chartered chemist who signs paperwork needed for friends. We’re lucky that we’re part of a group of professionals who can sign off stuff for each other, it’s disgusting that they ruled out and removed some of those who were able to do the same for millions of others though.
The government is not your friend and never has been, only the wealthy benefit.
Plus, under notes, section 4. We are informed that the identity isn’t our identity! We need this ID doc to open a bank account, but if we ask the bank to acknowledge, they always refuse to acknowledge the owner of the identity document. Meaning the account isn’t ours or its contents!
I read this story with a smirk on my face, oh the irony of it all. I have been through the same nightmare Bs fot years updating my British Passport every 10 years , as im not considered an Australian after residing in Australia for the last 60 yrs. Plus having had to renew my re-entry visa to Australia every 5 years. A a cost of over $300 Long
Story short . The BS hoops one has to jump through is designed, I believe to stop us from travelling. Alas, since "becoming a Aussie citizen ( costing over $ 300 )last month" i have just yesterday lodged my Australian Passport application to the Authorities at the outrageous cost of $346.00 plus Photo cost. X peggy
My Sister got hers through Gatwick Airport immigration office ,apparently all Major UK Airports and most Ferry ports have an immigration officer available specifically to help people with either rushing a passport renewal due to out of date passport or lost passport. Apparently you can in some cases get it the same day but it can be a temporary one instead of a ten year one ( costs the same) I have also been told immigration can send details over some kind of Secure server direct to passport office if everything is OK then a passport is issued if there's a problem then the London passport office may require you to go for a face to face interview in the London office. Its all different to my travelling days ,its been screwed up since the passport office became privatised.
I spoke to my GP, he is a good Dr and he signed my Son's passport application photo , I just called my Son and he got his passport just over a week ago no problems? Just a suggestion but if you take your Son to say Gatwick ask for the immigration office and they can help you get your passport within 72 hours! ( my Sister got hers the next day) I don't actually know what she did or said and I'm unable to ask her as she now lives in New Zealand.
I have a book called "Kaffir Boy" by a South African black man who managed to come to the USA for college during the time of apartheid. He describes the paperwork "bantus" were required to have and the refusal of the clerks to do their duty so that fewer than half of them were legal. Raids for papers were frequent and terrifying.
Sounds like Brits are being bantuized in their own country, and you cannot scream racism to escape the discrimination. You can bet immigrants of color will not be treated this way. So Brits are going to have to figure out how to throw off this government, without violence or murder, and install a smaller government with some integrity.
PLEASE NOTE:
Apparently the UK Passport Office has not been privatised but the fees went up 11th April 2024: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/update-on-passport-application-fees
A friend was needing a pension forecast so was asked to create an online government portal account which is needed to access tax, pension and many other government departments. After providing all the information asked for there was a problem with the list of verifiable identification. She didn’t have driving licence, passport or any of the other documents on the list making it impossible to comply with the criteria for the online account. I think a lot of people will fall into this category.
Has your son done any taught courses in the last few years? A teacher might be eligible/willing to sign provided the course was at least two years ago.
It is sad to hear such stories. A one would think the modern technology would be helpful and fast. But unfortunately the "computer says no" is just happening more often. For the sake of informing people but not criticising I would like to share my experience of recent re-new of the passport. I used paper application and post office service for sending. It costed 109 GBP in total including 16 GBP for post office service. It surprisingly took one week to get a passport (09-Apr till 16-Apr). I was surprised how fast it was. I would recommend still to use it. One other reason to do paper application - instead of your high quality digital picture in their database, they would still scan an old good photo image. So, there is less of your biometrics in digital format in their hands to work with.
I am sure, Francis, the pasport saga will end successfully. It is just annoying to deal with all these "permits to travel from one prison to another" matters once in a while. All the best!
Horrid but try having dual nationality and that other nationality being US….. now, try to get a passport or open a bank account when you live overseas……
At first I thought this was a complete joke until I was assured it was not.
As stated this is what happens when people simply go along with things and just shrug your shoulders and try comply. It is unbelievable! I actually thought the country concerned was China or north Korea and not the UK. People really need to sort this nonsense out and soon otherwise you will be stuck on an island .
Done on purpose to pursue digital ID as the solution to make life easier.
What makes it more of a mockery is allowing all and sundry into the country without checks and handing out passports to them like smarties.
I’m married to an industrial chartered chemist who signs paperwork needed for friends. We’re lucky that we’re part of a group of professionals who can sign off stuff for each other, it’s disgusting that they ruled out and removed some of those who were able to do the same for millions of others though.
The government is not your friend and never has been, only the wealthy benefit.
Plus, under notes, section 4. We are informed that the identity isn’t our identity! We need this ID doc to open a bank account, but if we ask the bank to acknowledge, they always refuse to acknowledge the owner of the identity document. Meaning the account isn’t ours or its contents!
Patience Frances. You have unfortunately had to contact the world of petty officials who are incompetent. Have you considered a forger?
I read this story with a smirk on my face, oh the irony of it all. I have been through the same nightmare Bs fot years updating my British Passport every 10 years , as im not considered an Australian after residing in Australia for the last 60 yrs. Plus having had to renew my re-entry visa to Australia every 5 years. A a cost of over $300 Long
Story short . The BS hoops one has to jump through is designed, I believe to stop us from travelling. Alas, since "becoming a Aussie citizen ( costing over $ 300 )last month" i have just yesterday lodged my Australian Passport application to the Authorities at the outrageous cost of $346.00 plus Photo cost. X peggy
Ps. Welcome to the real world.
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My Sister got hers through Gatwick Airport immigration office ,apparently all Major UK Airports and most Ferry ports have an immigration officer available specifically to help people with either rushing a passport renewal due to out of date passport or lost passport. Apparently you can in some cases get it the same day but it can be a temporary one instead of a ten year one ( costs the same) I have also been told immigration can send details over some kind of Secure server direct to passport office if everything is OK then a passport is issued if there's a problem then the London passport office may require you to go for a face to face interview in the London office. Its all different to my travelling days ,its been screwed up since the passport office became privatised.
I spoke to my GP, he is a good Dr and he signed my Son's passport application photo , I just called my Son and he got his passport just over a week ago no problems? Just a suggestion but if you take your Son to say Gatwick ask for the immigration office and they can help you get your passport within 72 hours! ( my Sister got hers the next day) I don't actually know what she did or said and I'm unable to ask her as she now lives in New Zealand.
Mindless bureaucracy - so much scarier than any virus.
Same sort of shite going on over here.
I am of the opinion that this is deliberate fuckery, on a very low level, just to piss everybody arf.
Such a waste of your time and energy.
Bureaucracy again.
Ah, they will sell us on the digital ID. So easy then.
I have a book called "Kaffir Boy" by a South African black man who managed to come to the USA for college during the time of apartheid. He describes the paperwork "bantus" were required to have and the refusal of the clerks to do their duty so that fewer than half of them were legal. Raids for papers were frequent and terrifying.
Sounds like Brits are being bantuized in their own country, and you cannot scream racism to escape the discrimination. You can bet immigrants of color will not be treated this way. So Brits are going to have to figure out how to throw off this government, without violence or murder, and install a smaller government with some integrity.