with you all the way on this Frances and do my bit as much as possible (I'd be here for ever researching and re-researching with no time/life in the day for living ) but are there too many normie shoppers for it NOT to make a difference ? well at one time I would have said no it does make a difference but nearly 3 years down the road with this B.S I would suggest perhaps not, I am totally dismayed by all bbc1 zombies surrounding me and it's stiflingly oppressive and the monetary system is really just the game of monopoly and we know how that ends, hence the name and if you add years of propaganda and a pinch of normie, hey presto pandemico!!! LOL Respect & X 2 All
PS, I boycott most of the same things you do. I do have a car, inherited from my parents. I go to grocery stores about once a week and make my own meals. I started making my own sauerkraut from cabbage this past summer and now I'm starting to make sourdough bread. I also devour beans, eggs, salmon and sardines along with supplements and condiments, oils etc. Tried growing garden this summer, but nothing grew well except the Swiss chard, which I didn't get in the mood to try.
If we each persuade two people each week to do similar boycotts and we teach them to persuade two people each and teach them to teach the same technique, in only 33 weeks the entire human populace would join us. Easy as pi.
To be fair, sugar is poison. Aspartame is not the answer, but we have stevia, which is a natural plant based sweetener. I always like to refer to Dr. Robert Lustig, and his presentation "Sugar: the bitter truth" which can be found on YT.
My Aussie friend uses Stevia. When she was staying here last January I tried it. I didn't like the taste at all. If I have to replace sugar I prefer to use honey but she doesn't like that..... and it is very expensive.
Are natural resources expensive, or is the artificial crapola cheap? Anyway honey is a good alternative, if it's real honey (and yes, you do have to watch out for the fake stuff). I tend to stay away from all things sugary. They do things to my body which it does not like at all.
I have been boycotting for years. I think what matters is standing on principle regardless of whether it really makes a difference in the big scheme of things or not. With a population as large as we have now, I don't think these huge corporations care at all whether we buy from them or not. But the mom and pop places do.
"My miniscule, tight-fisted existence is but a penny against their billions, no doubt. However, my soul is unsullied by the guilt of perpetuating their poisonous fakery, their sweat shops and their multi-billion rip-off international enterprises."
There's nothing miniscule about a determined soul who demands integrity between her thoughts and actions. Good for you. Could we multiply your efforts - and we so easily could! - we'd have a much better world.
The answer to your question is of course, yes. Vote with your dollars and let your conscience be your guide.
I detest big business but like an ( idiot ) I still use them that is because I am of a practical mind. I am a believer in the great cataclysm get as much as you can when you can. But truth be told gizmos and gadgets will not serve you as well as knowledge and skills and above all practice.
well they are partially right about the sugar. its inflammatory, definitely better off without the Ribena.
i have a pretty long list of companies i avoid but i can only pay so much attention to who owns what these days, most of it ends up in blackrock hands one way or another further up the supply chain
So true! I used to depend on Ribena for regular top ups of Vit C. Now I eat more fruit, which is much better I suppose. I do miss my blackcurrant fix though. It is part of my comfort food from childhood. It ranks high on the list with things like bacon & eggs, bangers and mash, roast dinners on a Sunday and naughty stuff like sticky toffee pudding and custard! Oh and strawberry trifle with sprinkles..... No wonder I have become a podge in my old age! 🤣😂
Bravo for you Fran - go for it! I had a smallholding in the 1970s for 20 odd years before my 4 kids left home and we downsized - 1st wife to a flat (she's still there - me to my Yacht and ended up in Cape Town (Simons Town FBYC) where I married my 2nd wife - a feisty South African - tough and plucky - not like the no 1 at all. That was 20 years ago.
Now we are temporarily deep in rural SW England in a 2/2 cottage which runs like our boat - 2kVA/day - home-grown natural foods - plenty of booze, Plan to get back to SA after their 2024 election results are known - sun is the best health food IMHO.
I am in Bruton, Somerset, Frances, very near to you. I have a life-long yachtsman friend in Crewkerne. Yes I worked bloody hard too for twenty+ years with 4 kids, goats (more kids), hens, horses, ducks etc and all the produce of 2 acres under natural cultivation per John Seymour who we adored in the 1970s and of course "The Good Life"!
I actually achieved my aim of producing a family Sunday roast and all the trimmings from my own labour and resources. The Aga (solid fuel) was a boom in the 1980s power cuts and the only tech I allowed for the kids' comfort (that's my excuse!)
Of course, we couldn't live entirely without the Matrix - but on my boat - then i could and in 2001 realised my dream of total independence. We shall return to the sea once again when the SHTF and our enforced sojourn in this nasty island is ended! I hope we can meet sometime - you have to be a fellow traveller!
Yachtsman ay? You should read my series about Lymp Duhdashian! She is a fictional character who is yachting around the Caribbean learning all the low down about the predator class Olympians aka the Black Nobility and their time-wasting off-spring. I might benefit from your advice regarding the technicalities....
I am about to write Episode 20. If you are curious you can whizz through the episodes beginning here:
Thank you Frances for your generosity - I shall indeed take a trip - but at present I am time-poor - spiritual rich! The sea is a special place Frances. It is a community of seafarers who will do anything for you asking nothing in return. Here is something you can add to your Episode:
I was reclining at the https://fbyc.co.za/ club bar one day and a cruiser arrived with a tale of the sea. He had done a 360 in a storm in the Pacific, lost his mast and managed to motor to a nearby island where, exhausted, he went below to rest. In the afternoon he found a bag in his cockpit containing $10k in cash. He carefully stowed it and continued his rest. That evening a knock on the cabin asked permission to come aboard - and he welcomed the stranger who asked if he had found the bag of money.
Yes, he said and returned below to present the stranger with his bag - and said it is here. The stranger said it was for him, but he protested and said he could never repay it because he was a poor yachtsman. But you don't have to, replied the stranger, the same thing happened to me some years ago and I was asked to pass it on - you can do the same!
This is what I believe our community at sea is all about. Unfortunately. landsmen, being not at the risk of the elements, have resorted to selfish individuality, forsaking the natural inclination of all of us being 'in it together' - and nowhere is this so obvious than at sea!
I rest my case in attempting to bring the law of the sea to those who have never been there. Which is why I promote UBUNTU - an African concept - yet containing everything we have learned on rollers of the southern ocean.
Nov 26, 2022·edited Nov 26, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
Too funny - I've boycotted all the same things my whole life! Well, I had my 2 channel TV until 30 years ago. I wear pretty much only a few pieces of handmade linen clothing and coats I've had for one million years........it all looks rather sackish and my wood stove does provide a lot of nice ash!
Lucky you for some nice take out, I'd LOVE to have some! Have to make all from scratch here from hard to get heirloom sources. Not easy. Been on the trail of the GMO engineering and biolabs since 1985.
Different topic Francis! Regarding your twitter poll - I just viewed this and thought of you particularly at minutes 18 and 37. But if you're like me, you'll want to hear it all..... some new info for me (Effective Altruism.......WTF??!!)
Hanging with tiredness, I have to go to bed (it is 00.44am here in UK atm). I will return to this interview in the morning. Many thanks for thinking to add it here. I am curious to find out which stately home Witney refers to at the 37th minute... I will have to dig into that. Apparently our Royals are looking to off-load Sandringham Palace, so that triggered a reminder for me. In May this year I dreamed I was with the Queen watching a Palace crumbling to sand. I wrote about it here: https://francesleader.substack.com/p/queen-of-rules-and-fools
Yes, was hoping for your sleuthing in regards to the shabby cottage that is now the Effective Altruism Center!
Just wanted to make sure you heard the info on data mining from the human encyclopedia that is Whitney, recalling I think, that you posted your approval of her recently as a reliable source of information.
And yes, I loved your May posting about your dream of the queen and yourself because it was so like the few dreams I've had of myself with world figures. (I also felt she would pass in May, but was wrong about that.)
I thought of your dream when I heard anything regarding her death and elaborate funeral last September - it was always your dream and my thoughts of Diana Spencer that came to mind.
I searched a bit.... nothing! Whitney must have skills waaay beyond mine! Maybe she will let us know what she knows about this mob and their finances, investments and MO later? I hope so, cos my spidey sense is triggered now! It seems that Effective Altruism Center is one of a small group of orgs under this umbrella:
Erm... no Jill. A tosser is a wanker..... or a gentleman who is masturbating. It means he loves himself, he satisfies himself and he is too self-obsessed to notice that he is a dick (a one-eyed trouser snake with a one track mind) or a dickhead aka a nob-end! Stick with me, Jill, I will teach you Brit slang until your language is as blue as our sunless washed out skin! 🤣😂
Wow! We knew what a wanker was, but did not know that a tosser is a wanker! - a jerk off, jack off, a beat off.
But here, a dick can just be an annoying loser. A dickhead is full of himself.
Though a cunt can be a man or a woman, what bothers me is that there is no male equivalent for the word slut or whore here. And here, there is also no equivalent for the word cuckold - or cuck. But now, looking at the shameful, captured wikipedia, I see the word cuckquean.
This is becoming very educational - and I SHALL stick with you, Frances, to learn more!
"I once met an EA (effective altruist) who worked at EA (Electronic Arts) and I asked to meet his EA (executive assistant) and it turned out they lived in EA (East Anglia) and were studying EA (enterprise architecture) but considering adding in EA (environmental assessment) to make it a double major, the majors cost $40k ea (each) 😉" then another bright spark wrote:
"Were they wearing an Emporio Armani t-shirt, by any chance?"
Boycotting has shown to work very well with some campaigns more successful than others. It is always about awareness and education to gather enough supporters to join a boycott. Other businesses small or large benefit from a boycott if they are on the right side of the issue and people turn to them for their products or services. The losers have to smarten up or lose out.
No, people don't like the taste......they probably know but don't care and they say the same thing to all the people that complain...so you feel alone and you wonder what is the point.... keep doing it......
Nov 25, 2022·edited Nov 26, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
Boycotts can be very effective. They can potentially bring any powerful institution to its knees. They can be decentralized and passive (peaceful) so that it is difficult for the target to counter, either legally or by use of force, unlike a street protest, for example. The challenge is to maximize participation -- a one-person boycott is likely to be ignored -- and then leverage that number of participants by choosing a target strategically, that is, by matching the number of participants to the size of the target and by aiming at the most vulnerable part of the target.
To successfully target a major global corporation would require the participation of a significant percentage of its client base, which would mean a massive marketing effort or perhaps merely an ingenious viral meme. I would suggest starting small, such that the odds of success are high, then building on success.
I've seen many attempts to boycott the megacorporation Coca-Cola, which one would think should have been successful given their highly dubious practices and their product's detrimental effect on health, but all such attempts have failed so far. But the humble Montgomery Bus Boycott was effective and was a significant contribution to the human rights movement. So, pick a good target, then round up participants; or, form a community and pick a target as a community. I would think there are a critical mass of people just on Substack -- enough to get the ball rolling.
"I was just going to say that all ideas that have a huge impact are always simple ones. And my idea comes down to this: if all the bad people can get together and show strength in unity, honest folk must do the same. You see – it’s as simple as that." -- Leo Tolstoy
with you all the way on this Frances and do my bit as much as possible (I'd be here for ever researching and re-researching with no time/life in the day for living ) but are there too many normie shoppers for it NOT to make a difference ? well at one time I would have said no it does make a difference but nearly 3 years down the road with this B.S I would suggest perhaps not, I am totally dismayed by all bbc1 zombies surrounding me and it's stiflingly oppressive and the monetary system is really just the game of monopoly and we know how that ends, hence the name and if you add years of propaganda and a pinch of normie, hey presto pandemico!!! LOL Respect & X 2 All
PS, I boycott most of the same things you do. I do have a car, inherited from my parents. I go to grocery stores about once a week and make my own meals. I started making my own sauerkraut from cabbage this past summer and now I'm starting to make sourdough bread. I also devour beans, eggs, salmon and sardines along with supplements and condiments, oils etc. Tried growing garden this summer, but nothing grew well except the Swiss chard, which I didn't get in the mood to try.
If we each persuade two people each week to do similar boycotts and we teach them to persuade two people each and teach them to teach the same technique, in only 33 weeks the entire human populace would join us. Easy as pi.
Here are sackcloth sources (some of which probably deliver):
https://www.google.com/search?q=sackcloth&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwinyc74_9P7AhWnmGoFHbYbAf4Q_AUoAnoECAMQBA&biw=1242&bih=568&dpr=1.1
Here are videos on starting a fire with sticks: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=start+fire+with+sticks
Once the fire starts, you can make ashes out of more sticks or most anything containing carbon.
A mass boycott of voting would make it impossible for anyone to claim the election was legitimate.
If boycotts didn't work then America's Best Ally(R)(TM) wouldn't be trying to make BDS illegal.
To be fair, sugar is poison. Aspartame is not the answer, but we have stevia, which is a natural plant based sweetener. I always like to refer to Dr. Robert Lustig, and his presentation "Sugar: the bitter truth" which can be found on YT.
My Aussie friend uses Stevia. When she was staying here last January I tried it. I didn't like the taste at all. If I have to replace sugar I prefer to use honey but she doesn't like that..... and it is very expensive.
Are natural resources expensive, or is the artificial crapola cheap? Anyway honey is a good alternative, if it's real honey (and yes, you do have to watch out for the fake stuff). I tend to stay away from all things sugary. They do things to my body which it does not like at all.
I have been boycotting for years. I think what matters is standing on principle regardless of whether it really makes a difference in the big scheme of things or not. With a population as large as we have now, I don't think these huge corporations care at all whether we buy from them or not. But the mom and pop places do.
"My miniscule, tight-fisted existence is but a penny against their billions, no doubt. However, my soul is unsullied by the guilt of perpetuating their poisonous fakery, their sweat shops and their multi-billion rip-off international enterprises."
There's nothing miniscule about a determined soul who demands integrity between her thoughts and actions. Good for you. Could we multiply your efforts - and we so easily could! - we'd have a much better world.
The answer to your question is of course, yes. Vote with your dollars and let your conscience be your guide.
ps The great Bert Gummer once said - When you need it and have it GOOD When you need it and you haven't got it you sing a different tune.
I detest big business but like an ( idiot ) I still use them that is because I am of a practical mind. I am a believer in the great cataclysm get as much as you can when you can. But truth be told gizmos and gadgets will not serve you as well as knowledge and skills and above all practice.
well they are partially right about the sugar. its inflammatory, definitely better off without the Ribena.
i have a pretty long list of companies i avoid but i can only pay so much attention to who owns what these days, most of it ends up in blackrock hands one way or another further up the supply chain
So true! I used to depend on Ribena for regular top ups of Vit C. Now I eat more fruit, which is much better I suppose. I do miss my blackcurrant fix though. It is part of my comfort food from childhood. It ranks high on the list with things like bacon & eggs, bangers and mash, roast dinners on a Sunday and naughty stuff like sticky toffee pudding and custard! Oh and strawberry trifle with sprinkles..... No wonder I have become a podge in my old age! 🤣😂
i liked Ribena too, gave it up years a go along with the pepsi addiction i had. terrible stuff
Bravo for you Fran - go for it! I had a smallholding in the 1970s for 20 odd years before my 4 kids left home and we downsized - 1st wife to a flat (she's still there - me to my Yacht and ended up in Cape Town (Simons Town FBYC) where I married my 2nd wife - a feisty South African - tough and plucky - not like the no 1 at all. That was 20 years ago.
Now we are temporarily deep in rural SW England in a 2/2 cottage which runs like our boat - 2kVA/day - home-grown natural foods - plenty of booze, Plan to get back to SA after their 2024 election results are known - sun is the best health food IMHO.
Ooh it sounds like you have a stack of stories to tell..... subscribing to your newsletter!
I lived off grid for a while too.... loved it, hard work though!
I live in SW England too, I am near to the Dorset Jurassic Coast. Where are you?
I am in Bruton, Somerset, Frances, very near to you. I have a life-long yachtsman friend in Crewkerne. Yes I worked bloody hard too for twenty+ years with 4 kids, goats (more kids), hens, horses, ducks etc and all the produce of 2 acres under natural cultivation per John Seymour who we adored in the 1970s and of course "The Good Life"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf_qVE1sWMY
I actually achieved my aim of producing a family Sunday roast and all the trimmings from my own labour and resources. The Aga (solid fuel) was a boom in the 1980s power cuts and the only tech I allowed for the kids' comfort (that's my excuse!)
Of course, we couldn't live entirely without the Matrix - but on my boat - then i could and in 2001 realised my dream of total independence. We shall return to the sea once again when the SHTF and our enforced sojourn in this nasty island is ended! I hope we can meet sometime - you have to be a fellow traveller!
Yachtsman ay? You should read my series about Lymp Duhdashian! She is a fictional character who is yachting around the Caribbean learning all the low down about the predator class Olympians aka the Black Nobility and their time-wasting off-spring. I might benefit from your advice regarding the technicalities....
I am about to write Episode 20. If you are curious you can whizz through the episodes beginning here:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/the-daily-grind-of-lymp-duhdashyan
Thank you Frances for your generosity - I shall indeed take a trip - but at present I am time-poor - spiritual rich! The sea is a special place Frances. It is a community of seafarers who will do anything for you asking nothing in return. Here is something you can add to your Episode:
I was reclining at the https://fbyc.co.za/ club bar one day and a cruiser arrived with a tale of the sea. He had done a 360 in a storm in the Pacific, lost his mast and managed to motor to a nearby island where, exhausted, he went below to rest. In the afternoon he found a bag in his cockpit containing $10k in cash. He carefully stowed it and continued his rest. That evening a knock on the cabin asked permission to come aboard - and he welcomed the stranger who asked if he had found the bag of money.
Yes, he said and returned below to present the stranger with his bag - and said it is here. The stranger said it was for him, but he protested and said he could never repay it because he was a poor yachtsman. But you don't have to, replied the stranger, the same thing happened to me some years ago and I was asked to pass it on - you can do the same!
This is what I believe our community at sea is all about. Unfortunately. landsmen, being not at the risk of the elements, have resorted to selfish individuality, forsaking the natural inclination of all of us being 'in it together' - and nowhere is this so obvious than at sea!
I rest my case in attempting to bring the law of the sea to those who have never been there. Which is why I promote UBUNTU - an African concept - yet containing everything we have learned on rollers of the southern ocean.
https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/progressing-plan-b-a-quarterly-review?s=w
Oh I see! I remember hearing a lot about UBUNTU years ago. I was not aware that it was still a thing.
Yes, very much so Frances - check out - South Africa is well ahead:
https://bizmag.co.za/embrace-our-ubuntu-economy-to-survive-think-local-act-local/
Too funny - I've boycotted all the same things my whole life! Well, I had my 2 channel TV until 30 years ago. I wear pretty much only a few pieces of handmade linen clothing and coats I've had for one million years........it all looks rather sackish and my wood stove does provide a lot of nice ash!
Lucky you for some nice take out, I'd LOVE to have some! Have to make all from scratch here from hard to get heirloom sources. Not easy. Been on the trail of the GMO engineering and biolabs since 1985.
Different topic Francis! Regarding your twitter poll - I just viewed this and thought of you particularly at minutes 18 and 37. But if you're like me, you'll want to hear it all..... some new info for me (Effective Altruism.......WTF??!!)
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/good-morning-chd/financial-crimes-covid--con-artists-with-whitney-webb--dr-jessica-rose/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Hanging with tiredness, I have to go to bed (it is 00.44am here in UK atm). I will return to this interview in the morning. Many thanks for thinking to add it here. I am curious to find out which stately home Witney refers to at the 37th minute... I will have to dig into that. Apparently our Royals are looking to off-load Sandringham Palace, so that triggered a reminder for me. In May this year I dreamed I was with the Queen watching a Palace crumbling to sand. I wrote about it here: https://francesleader.substack.com/p/queen-of-rules-and-fools
Yes, was hoping for your sleuthing in regards to the shabby cottage that is now the Effective Altruism Center!
Just wanted to make sure you heard the info on data mining from the human encyclopedia that is Whitney, recalling I think, that you posted your approval of her recently as a reliable source of information.
And yes, I loved your May posting about your dream of the queen and yourself because it was so like the few dreams I've had of myself with world figures. (I also felt she would pass in May, but was wrong about that.)
I thought of your dream when I heard anything regarding her death and elaborate funeral last September - it was always your dream and my thoughts of Diana Spencer that came to mind.
Nothing else made sense to me.
I searched a bit.... nothing! Whitney must have skills waaay beyond mine! Maybe she will let us know what she knows about this mob and their finances, investments and MO later? I hope so, cos my spidey sense is triggered now! It seems that Effective Altruism Center is one of a small group of orgs under this umbrella:
https://ev.org/
Chairman of the Trustees is this Oxford guy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_MacAskill
He is connected to the FTX collapse:
https://gizmodo.com/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-effective-altruism-crypto-1849773116
PLUS in today's news MacAskill mentors ELON MUSK!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f0fd4bf0-6a80-11ed-85fc-6c020d5ba0b7?shareToken=af6b33e4957849a92920c7a946d0e0e4
Good job.
What is it you Brits (and you) always say? What a bunch of tossers!
Is that word equivalent to how we use the word "losers" I wonder?
First link I see after you finding effective ventures.......
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07962181/officers
Thank you for these links, I'll be looking at them when I have time later.
Erm... no Jill. A tosser is a wanker..... or a gentleman who is masturbating. It means he loves himself, he satisfies himself and he is too self-obsessed to notice that he is a dick (a one-eyed trouser snake with a one track mind) or a dickhead aka a nob-end! Stick with me, Jill, I will teach you Brit slang until your language is as blue as our sunless washed out skin! 🤣😂
Wow! We knew what a wanker was, but did not know that a tosser is a wanker! - a jerk off, jack off, a beat off.
But here, a dick can just be an annoying loser. A dickhead is full of himself.
Though a cunt can be a man or a woman, what bothers me is that there is no male equivalent for the word slut or whore here. And here, there is also no equivalent for the word cuckold - or cuck. But now, looking at the shameful, captured wikipedia, I see the word cuckquean.
This is becoming very educational - and I SHALL stick with you, Frances, to learn more!
Ohhh.....Whitney is not up to date - https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/9gHTYC5qbSH9E37vx/cea-ops-is-now-ev-ops
Thanks to you we know this new name for the cesspool these slime bags are now crawling into!
Comment seen at the foot of that article:
"I once met an EA (effective altruist) who worked at EA (Electronic Arts) and I asked to meet his EA (executive assistant) and it turned out they lived in EA (East Anglia) and were studying EA (enterprise architecture) but considering adding in EA (environmental assessment) to make it a double major, the majors cost $40k ea (each) 😉" then another bright spark wrote:
"Were they wearing an Emporio Armani t-shirt, by any chance?"
🤣😂
Boycotting has shown to work very well with some campaigns more successful than others. It is always about awareness and education to gather enough supporters to join a boycott. Other businesses small or large benefit from a boycott if they are on the right side of the issue and people turn to them for their products or services. The losers have to smarten up or lose out.
No, people don't like the taste......they probably know but don't care and they say the same thing to all the people that complain...so you feel alone and you wonder what is the point.... keep doing it......
Boycotts can be very effective. They can potentially bring any powerful institution to its knees. They can be decentralized and passive (peaceful) so that it is difficult for the target to counter, either legally or by use of force, unlike a street protest, for example. The challenge is to maximize participation -- a one-person boycott is likely to be ignored -- and then leverage that number of participants by choosing a target strategically, that is, by matching the number of participants to the size of the target and by aiming at the most vulnerable part of the target.
To successfully target a major global corporation would require the participation of a significant percentage of its client base, which would mean a massive marketing effort or perhaps merely an ingenious viral meme. I would suggest starting small, such that the odds of success are high, then building on success.
I've seen many attempts to boycott the megacorporation Coca-Cola, which one would think should have been successful given their highly dubious practices and their product's detrimental effect on health, but all such attempts have failed so far. But the humble Montgomery Bus Boycott was effective and was a significant contribution to the human rights movement. So, pick a good target, then round up participants; or, form a community and pick a target as a community. I would think there are a critical mass of people just on Substack -- enough to get the ball rolling.
"I was just going to say that all ideas that have a huge impact are always simple ones. And my idea comes down to this: if all the bad people can get together and show strength in unity, honest folk must do the same. You see – it’s as simple as that." -- Leo Tolstoy