Don't take his comments too personally. He engages everyone with the same attitude. In this he is consistent, at least.
I have been irritated by his tendency to dominate and to assume that we are all stupid, gullible fools who cannot discern good from bad. My own friendly overtures have hit a brick wall - it is as if he seeks confrontation or absolute submission. He does not handle conviviality well at all.....
As for following dodgy accounts, I am the same as you. I follow (but will not pay to read) some of the narrative addicts who write here on Substack but only to ascertain their position. Of course I am inclined to give them the benefit of my opinion and access to my own writings. Isn't this what debate is all about?
You need not apologise to me for the "toxic dynamic" which I note does not emanate from you.
He's not referring to dodgy accounts, he's referring to well known folks who believe that the 'virus' is real. Some who believe it's been bioengineered. At this point I don't know, how can I? I'm just listening, sometimes.
I have personal experience with Frank.
He doesn't like reflection and goes off the deep end. He gets quite twisted and cruel. I have used this 'relationship' to work through some past abuse. Standing up to bullies. Although in the end I think it was a poor choice on my part, possibly. I would never have made that choice if I didn't see that he could be grounded and quite connected. In the end I was just repeating the abusive pattern.
Thank you for your support and response, I really appreciate it.
I despair that too many are traumatized for too many reasons, more and more so.
lol "he's referring to well known folks who believe that the 'virus' is real." - yeah, those are precisely the dodgy accounts I was referring to! (can't stop grinning now!)
From the beginning of this I was plugged into folks like Thomas Cowan and Andrew Kaufman, through Kelly Brogan and Sayer Ji.
I listened to docs on the frontline speak to how death certificates were being used to pump up numbers of 'virus' deaths. I've listened to 'germ theory' be put in it's place. I've listen to Zach Bush speak to the human body being more virus and bacteria naturally than anything else. I've done my own healing work using my voice and breath to shift pain. I've learned to sing and riff and play. And yeah sometimes I sound awful and I'm likely just screaming. But I can't do anything unless I'm willing to really suck at it.
I don't medicate in any way, ever. Well... a little refined sugar sneaks into my diet on the rare, much to my regret.
Everything is fear based. Everything is eat this, eat that. Take this supplement, take that one. Isolation will kill you. You won't live long without touch. (And if you're a woman the blah blah blah is endless and toxic)
You can't go here or do that without a jab. Why aren't you thinking of others?
You're going to die!
I've negotiated a brutal divorce with a sneaky bully. I've lost my kids, which shreds my heart on the daily. I know lies, I know bullies, I know abuse. And yes I keep stepping in it cause it's so familiar and there are pieces I need to work through endlessly.
For one person to have my back would be such a gift. (other than me that is!) And no I'm not sitting on a shelf waiting to be purchased. (And I've slapped a lot of folks, in my mind, who think that's the thing)
And yeah, I'm going to die, but right now I'm going swimming (she said looking at the snow on the ground).
Okay maybe a shape shifting adventure is more in order.
(Thanks for reading my rant, if you did! Anything else murmuring around in my imagination I'll channel elsewhere.)
Feel free to rant as much as you need. You should hear me when I get going....
On the subject of lost kids: Never give up hope. I thought I had lost my son several times over the years (so I get how much it hurts) but now that I am disabled and housebound guess who cares/cooks/cleans/decorates and makes me laugh every day?
On March 9, a meeting on the food crisis was held in Europe by the EU’s European Food Security Crisis Preparedness and Response Mechanism, an outfit newly created in 2021, at which the European-wide farmers’ association and several member nations appealed to set aside production restrictions in the EU’s Green Deal, Farm to Fork, and Biodiversity Strategies. They reported on the food and farming crisis. Three countries reported that they will run out of livestock feed by Easter. Timing is critical, with imports from North America taking up to 40 days. There is a seed shortage at the time of spring planting. On the international side, World Food Program (WFP) chief David Beasley pointed out last week that Ukraine accounted for 50% of all the WFP grain purchased for food relief to feed 125 million people, “day in and day out.” He made an appeal for that to be taken up by potential food-exporting nations. However, the EU bureaucracy refused the appeals across the board, and even disallowed these points as topics of discussion. In fact, it was asserted that the current dry spell hitting crops and pastures in the Mediterranean was “proof” of the climate change crisis, for which even more food production should be cut in the name of reducing emissions and saving biodiversity.
The moral of this story? The green killer agenda, and the Malthusian U.S./U.K./NATO agenda, as seen in Ukraine, are one and the same evil policy, which must be stopped.
Before the insanity came to town there was a beautiful movement of eating local food. Shopping at local farmer's markets and growing your own. Shopping at local businesses. Where I used to live we had a small front yard, tiny really. An urban suburban neighborhood. We pulled out the grass and planted flowers, a tree, medicinal plants and some food. Some people had chickens in their tiny backyards.
This is the direction many were going in. I've often wondered if this was felt as a direct threat to the 'agenda'. Many were also turning to medicinal plants, as they have been for years, for healing. And other healing modalities. We can eat local food. We can turn away from large systems. It seems the only thing to do. It's the only way to stop this nonsense. It is sad that many who know this, and are part of the local food movement, believed the pandemic scenario and the need for 'vaccines'. It's a sad damaged, traumatized and upside down world. Trauma was great before this. Our health care system was horrifying our 'mental health' system traumatizing and useless.
Walking away...
People with wealth and power need to be stopped, systems need to change. I don't know how else to do this except to walk away.
Mar 16, 2022·edited Mar 16, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
Excellent post!
I am responding to it, Frances, and just speaking "out," to anyone/everyone who is on this thread...
If we still have ANY lingering hopes that as the whole Covid fraud dissipates, we are somehow going to be going "back to normal," we need to snap out of it. This food "crisis" is PLANNED, just like Covid was PLANNED, it's NOT OVER, and the main message we really, really, really need to hear is that THIS IS A DEPOPULATION PROGRAM (POGROM).
When psychopaths have the kind of power that the ones behind Covid and "Own nothing and be Happy" have, we cannot expect MERCY. I don't know why people can't seem to understand that psychopaths HAVE NO CONSCIENCE. An appeal to them for mercy is like asking a brick wall for a cookie. Petitions and outrage on Facebook are simply going to help in the effort to identify the dissenters. If we think the CIA and their "assets" can't do that now, we're whistling in the dark. And don't think for a second that the perpetrators (perpeTRAITORS) who are behind this almost unbelievable conspiracy to exterminate a vast swath of the Human Species in order to better control the few that are left don't have their own very large caches of food in some locked-away safety hole...
Unless and until the majority of the population at least are able to QUESTION what is going on, we are fighting this battle on two separate fronts: the battle of INFORMATION/TRUTH and the battle of SURVIVAL ITSELF. It's gonna get ugly.
I'm basically repeating this on MY blog, too, a bit longer! But... Time is short.
Mar 15, 2022·edited Mar 15, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
Oh, I think you're spot on. I strongly believe that there is a deliberate and planned food shortage being created. And since I believe that contagion is, as Thomas Cowan says, a "myth," the idea of slaughtering millions of chickens for no reason is just as evil as slaughtering millions of humans. Good post, a friend of mine (it was Elizabeth!) told me to visit you... Glad I did. Cheers.
One bird in a flock gets tested & the whole lot gets culled?
That is human lunacy which is far more devastating - some birds will survive EMFs and chemtrails..... they won't survive the health obsessed delusional authorities.
I should add that we mustn't RUSH to these decisions. I am making statements based on the past history of what is going on, and on my intuition, and a kind of logical progression speculation...
It's human pathology, in my view. This isn't about health, it's about creating a food shortage. This is part of the EVIL I talk about in my post of today, "No Sunglasses." The first thing is to recognize it. What you say above would make perfect sense if this were a case of simply making a "mistake." smdh
Plus, I have a 40 m3 water tank. Only rain water. No connection to public water grid. This summer I will install photovoltaic panels and then I'll be totally out of the grid and check remaining ❌.
In Portugal it's been almost weekly the same thing about avian flu. Famine it's coming for a lot of people as all meat prices are skyrocketing.
Most European countries will not afford more debt to "help" their citizens.
Yep! That is real off grid life in a nutshell... I had an organic fruit farm in Spain and I also talked to my trees, potato plants, chickens, horse and cat - but mostly to my dogs. People in the village would often ask me if I was OK "up there, all alone" - I never felt alone, the place was teaming with life!
Thank you, I love this! I think this idea of isolation as damaging might be what is damaging. I do feel we are designed to be in the energetic fields of others, but we are also beautifully capable of reaching deep within and finding great depth of meaning and solace and love within ourselves.
No, but I had learned a lot about permaculture before I left UK. I had been preparing my escape, dreaming my dream and building my knowledge for many years before I set off to find my Avalon.
Mar 14, 2022·edited Mar 14, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
❤️Christian and James..and I do all those things plus I took my vehicle off the road. Trying to get off the grid as much as possible! Hopefully I can turn my porch into a greenhouse as it has sun all the time. As chef trained I Germany I can butcher most animals skin to tail. My farmer friends have chickens. Lol, I’ll be the crazy woman riding her bike down the road with chickens hanging off the handle bars!
Unfortunately I was raised and grew up in a make believe world. The only reason I did not fall for the COVID scam is because I have a strong science background and Jeffrey Epstein. I know, Epstein? For some reason I followed that the year before and the when COVID hit I just dove in. I’m shocked at how quickly I went from asleep to awake. THATS when I started a Twatter account, met like minded people such as yourself and then cut Twatter because it’s toxic. Perhaps I am too “labile” but I haven’t looked back. ANYWAY, what I am trying to say is that even though I am awake and am perpetually on “high alert” (this is not a pleasant state) I feel relief. Not sure how else to put it. I feel like I am still being used and abused but at least I know it. At least I can prepare as best as I can. Thanks for your insight Frances, I’m richer having you in my life.
So true. Medicine shouldn't ever be "one size fits all." And illness, or "dis- ease" isn't always caused by something physical, like bacteria, right? You can be stressed out or sad or bullied, or lots of things. We are complex critters. And we're fed soooo many lies, and over long periods of time, it's hard to always discern truth out of all the CRAP.
Yes, point taken. It IS physical, but it's not something you can remove, physically. You know? It's not TANGIBLE. I guess that's the difference I was trying to point out... Yes? All good. I am a firm adversary of Big Pharma and its cousins, fake research and greed-based "medicine." I'm one of those booming voices in the choir! Glad you are, too. We need more Good Guys.
I would wonder at the timing though. I would doubt that people raising their own flock for eggs or meat or both are likely feeding them anything suspicious. (I can't know)
As far as environmental toxins go the ones recirculating in the environment or dispersed from above, these aren't new pieces, I don't think. And if they suddenly are that would be at considerable expense. But... why would authorities suddenly be showing up? Routine checks... orchestrated? Hmmmm...
Mar 17, 2022·edited Mar 17, 2022Liked by Frances Leader
In the context of this conversation to make food supply scarce. In the context of a larger conversation animals raised crammed together are generally unhealthy and sometimes pharmaceuticals are used to keep them 'healthy'. So they are not a healthy food choice for humans.
Frances I apologize for exposing you to the toxic dynamic between myself and slanderman aka Frank MacGregor Bosch.
In future I will give him a wide berth if I come across him on your feed.
He is so capable of beautiful thought and perspective, just not with me.
Don't take his comments too personally. He engages everyone with the same attitude. In this he is consistent, at least.
I have been irritated by his tendency to dominate and to assume that we are all stupid, gullible fools who cannot discern good from bad. My own friendly overtures have hit a brick wall - it is as if he seeks confrontation or absolute submission. He does not handle conviviality well at all.....
As for following dodgy accounts, I am the same as you. I follow (but will not pay to read) some of the narrative addicts who write here on Substack but only to ascertain their position. Of course I am inclined to give them the benefit of my opinion and access to my own writings. Isn't this what debate is all about?
You need not apologise to me for the "toxic dynamic" which I note does not emanate from you.
He's not referring to dodgy accounts, he's referring to well known folks who believe that the 'virus' is real. Some who believe it's been bioengineered. At this point I don't know, how can I? I'm just listening, sometimes.
I have personal experience with Frank.
He doesn't like reflection and goes off the deep end. He gets quite twisted and cruel. I have used this 'relationship' to work through some past abuse. Standing up to bullies. Although in the end I think it was a poor choice on my part, possibly. I would never have made that choice if I didn't see that he could be grounded and quite connected. In the end I was just repeating the abusive pattern.
Thank you for your support and response, I really appreciate it.
I despair that too many are traumatized for too many reasons, more and more so.
lol "he's referring to well known folks who believe that the 'virus' is real." - yeah, those are precisely the dodgy accounts I was referring to! (can't stop grinning now!)
From the beginning of this I was plugged into folks like Thomas Cowan and Andrew Kaufman, through Kelly Brogan and Sayer Ji.
I listened to docs on the frontline speak to how death certificates were being used to pump up numbers of 'virus' deaths. I've listened to 'germ theory' be put in it's place. I've listen to Zach Bush speak to the human body being more virus and bacteria naturally than anything else. I've done my own healing work using my voice and breath to shift pain. I've learned to sing and riff and play. And yeah sometimes I sound awful and I'm likely just screaming. But I can't do anything unless I'm willing to really suck at it.
I don't medicate in any way, ever. Well... a little refined sugar sneaks into my diet on the rare, much to my regret.
Everything is fear based. Everything is eat this, eat that. Take this supplement, take that one. Isolation will kill you. You won't live long without touch. (And if you're a woman the blah blah blah is endless and toxic)
You can't go here or do that without a jab. Why aren't you thinking of others?
You're going to die!
I've negotiated a brutal divorce with a sneaky bully. I've lost my kids, which shreds my heart on the daily. I know lies, I know bullies, I know abuse. And yes I keep stepping in it cause it's so familiar and there are pieces I need to work through endlessly.
For one person to have my back would be such a gift. (other than me that is!) And no I'm not sitting on a shelf waiting to be purchased. (And I've slapped a lot of folks, in my mind, who think that's the thing)
And yeah, I'm going to die, but right now I'm going swimming (she said looking at the snow on the ground).
Okay maybe a shape shifting adventure is more in order.
(Thanks for reading my rant, if you did! Anything else murmuring around in my imagination I'll channel elsewhere.)
Feel free to rant as much as you need. You should hear me when I get going....
On the subject of lost kids: Never give up hope. I thought I had lost my son several times over the years (so I get how much it hurts) but now that I am disabled and housebound guess who cares/cooks/cleans/decorates and makes me laugh every day?
I'm sorry you're disabled!
My son is like that too. He's got a great sense of humor, really cuts to the gist of things.
It's awesome yours is back in your life.
Thank you for welcoming my rant! ❤️
Geez Frank, retard is one of my favorite words. It puts me back on a bus when I was in elementary school.
On March 9, a meeting on the food crisis was held in Europe by the EU’s European Food Security Crisis Preparedness and Response Mechanism, an outfit newly created in 2021, at which the European-wide farmers’ association and several member nations appealed to set aside production restrictions in the EU’s Green Deal, Farm to Fork, and Biodiversity Strategies. They reported on the food and farming crisis. Three countries reported that they will run out of livestock feed by Easter. Timing is critical, with imports from North America taking up to 40 days. There is a seed shortage at the time of spring planting. On the international side, World Food Program (WFP) chief David Beasley pointed out last week that Ukraine accounted for 50% of all the WFP grain purchased for food relief to feed 125 million people, “day in and day out.” He made an appeal for that to be taken up by potential food-exporting nations. However, the EU bureaucracy refused the appeals across the board, and even disallowed these points as topics of discussion. In fact, it was asserted that the current dry spell hitting crops and pastures in the Mediterranean was “proof” of the climate change crisis, for which even more food production should be cut in the name of reducing emissions and saving biodiversity.
The moral of this story? The green killer agenda, and the Malthusian U.S./U.K./NATO agenda, as seen in Ukraine, are one and the same evil policy, which must be stopped.
Before the insanity came to town there was a beautiful movement of eating local food. Shopping at local farmer's markets and growing your own. Shopping at local businesses. Where I used to live we had a small front yard, tiny really. An urban suburban neighborhood. We pulled out the grass and planted flowers, a tree, medicinal plants and some food. Some people had chickens in their tiny backyards.
This is the direction many were going in. I've often wondered if this was felt as a direct threat to the 'agenda'. Many were also turning to medicinal plants, as they have been for years, for healing. And other healing modalities. We can eat local food. We can turn away from large systems. It seems the only thing to do. It's the only way to stop this nonsense. It is sad that many who know this, and are part of the local food movement, believed the pandemic scenario and the need for 'vaccines'. It's a sad damaged, traumatized and upside down world. Trauma was great before this. Our health care system was horrifying our 'mental health' system traumatizing and useless.
Walking away...
People with wealth and power need to be stopped, systems need to change. I don't know how else to do this except to walk away.
Excellent post!
I am responding to it, Frances, and just speaking "out," to anyone/everyone who is on this thread...
If we still have ANY lingering hopes that as the whole Covid fraud dissipates, we are somehow going to be going "back to normal," we need to snap out of it. This food "crisis" is PLANNED, just like Covid was PLANNED, it's NOT OVER, and the main message we really, really, really need to hear is that THIS IS A DEPOPULATION PROGRAM (POGROM).
When psychopaths have the kind of power that the ones behind Covid and "Own nothing and be Happy" have, we cannot expect MERCY. I don't know why people can't seem to understand that psychopaths HAVE NO CONSCIENCE. An appeal to them for mercy is like asking a brick wall for a cookie. Petitions and outrage on Facebook are simply going to help in the effort to identify the dissenters. If we think the CIA and their "assets" can't do that now, we're whistling in the dark. And don't think for a second that the perpetrators (perpeTRAITORS) who are behind this almost unbelievable conspiracy to exterminate a vast swath of the Human Species in order to better control the few that are left don't have their own very large caches of food in some locked-away safety hole...
Unless and until the majority of the population at least are able to QUESTION what is going on, we are fighting this battle on two separate fronts: the battle of INFORMATION/TRUTH and the battle of SURVIVAL ITSELF. It's gonna get ugly.
I'm basically repeating this on MY blog, too, a bit longer! But... Time is short.
I think so too. Watched a jaw dropping interview on the Solari Reportith Catherine Austin Fitts and today which Celia Farber posted. https://pelerine.substack.com/p/special-solari-report-reset-in-ukraine?s=r
Oh, I think you're spot on. I strongly believe that there is a deliberate and planned food shortage being created. And since I believe that contagion is, as Thomas Cowan says, a "myth," the idea of slaughtering millions of chickens for no reason is just as evil as slaughtering millions of humans. Good post, a friend of mine (it was Elizabeth!) told me to visit you... Glad I did. Cheers.
It's the latter. EMF might be killing birds as well, not a "virus".
It's also quite possible it's spraying, as in aerosol spraying, as in, "Chem Trails."
One bird in a flock gets tested & the whole lot gets culled?
That is human lunacy which is far more devastating - some birds will survive EMFs and chemtrails..... they won't survive the health obsessed delusional authorities.
I should add that we mustn't RUSH to these decisions. I am making statements based on the past history of what is going on, and on my intuition, and a kind of logical progression speculation...
It's human pathology, in my view. This isn't about health, it's about creating a food shortage. This is part of the EVIL I talk about in my post of today, "No Sunglasses." The first thing is to recognize it. What you say above would make perfect sense if this were a case of simply making a "mistake." smdh
The weeds at our feet.
• Start growing food ✅
• Collect and save seeds ❌
• Keep animals ❌
• Practice good soil husbandry ✅
• Support local food systems ✅
• Purchase from local farmers and suppliers ✅
• Consider local exchange transactions ✅
• Build community interdependence ❌
Plus, I have a 40 m3 water tank. Only rain water. No connection to public water grid. This summer I will install photovoltaic panels and then I'll be totally out of the grid and check remaining ❌.
In Portugal it's been almost weekly the same thing about avian flu. Famine it's coming for a lot of people as all meat prices are skyrocketing.
Most European countries will not afford more debt to "help" their citizens.
I'm off the grid.
But moved right before this insanity became apparent to me.
I love your checklist!
Mine is:
Get up
Breathe
Try to move
Hydrate
Try to eat
And reach deep inside and feel.
Oh and talk to the sun and myself, out loud. And the moon and the stars and feral cats who keep the mice population down.
Oh and, walk barefoot on the earth and sometimes in the snow (very briefly)
Yep! That is real off grid life in a nutshell... I had an organic fruit farm in Spain and I also talked to my trees, potato plants, chickens, horse and cat - but mostly to my dogs. People in the village would often ask me if I was OK "up there, all alone" - I never felt alone, the place was teaming with life!
Thank you, I love this! I think this idea of isolation as damaging might be what is damaging. I do feel we are designed to be in the energetic fields of others, but we are also beautifully capable of reaching deep within and finding great depth of meaning and solace and love within ourselves.
Did you ever try Bill Mollison permaculture? His book it´s like a bible to me.
No, but I had learned a lot about permaculture before I left UK. I had been preparing my escape, dreaming my dream and building my knowledge for many years before I set off to find my Avalon.
Oho, yours is simple but top. I will get to that point soon.
❤️
Thank you Frances!
(sorry I keep changing my name)
Someone told me some birds were killed here for this reason and I thought exactly what you speak to.
Thank you for speaking to it.
I keep shaking my head down to the left as if I have water in my ear. Desperate perspective shift. . . I think we need to mourn as a collective.
Shake it, don't break it. ;) But seriously, yes, yes.
Yes to mourning or shake'n bake or shifting perspective?
I agree with all of it!
❤️Christian and James..and I do all those things plus I took my vehicle off the road. Trying to get off the grid as much as possible! Hopefully I can turn my porch into a greenhouse as it has sun all the time. As chef trained I Germany I can butcher most animals skin to tail. My farmer friends have chickens. Lol, I’ll be the crazy woman riding her bike down the road with chickens hanging off the handle bars!
Wonderful! xx
Unfortunately I was raised and grew up in a make believe world. The only reason I did not fall for the COVID scam is because I have a strong science background and Jeffrey Epstein. I know, Epstein? For some reason I followed that the year before and the when COVID hit I just dove in. I’m shocked at how quickly I went from asleep to awake. THATS when I started a Twatter account, met like minded people such as yourself and then cut Twatter because it’s toxic. Perhaps I am too “labile” but I haven’t looked back. ANYWAY, what I am trying to say is that even though I am awake and am perpetually on “high alert” (this is not a pleasant state) I feel relief. Not sure how else to put it. I feel like I am still being used and abused but at least I know it. At least I can prepare as best as I can. Thanks for your insight Frances, I’m richer having you in my life.
I enjoyed reading your comments-- I want to be part of this club of you, Frances, Elizabeth, et al. xo
We are ALL in this together. Power in numbers💪🏼💕
Agreed. ???
I'm was talking about a tiny little subgroup here. Not saying anything about separation from the larger group, just enjoying a handful of bloggers.
Yes that’s what I mean too.
Face? Bovvered?
I agree with the video, too. A good long version of all said there is the book by Dr. Thomas Cowan called "The Contagion Myth."
So true. Medicine shouldn't ever be "one size fits all." And illness, or "dis- ease" isn't always caused by something physical, like bacteria, right? You can be stressed out or sad or bullied, or lots of things. We are complex critters. And we're fed soooo many lies, and over long periods of time, it's hard to always discern truth out of all the CRAP.
Yes, point taken. It IS physical, but it's not something you can remove, physically. You know? It's not TANGIBLE. I guess that's the difference I was trying to point out... Yes? All good. I am a firm adversary of Big Pharma and its cousins, fake research and greed-based "medicine." I'm one of those booming voices in the choir! Glad you are, too. We need more Good Guys.
Exactly.
I would wonder at the timing though. I would doubt that people raising their own flock for eggs or meat or both are likely feeding them anything suspicious. (I can't know)
As far as environmental toxins go the ones recirculating in the environment or dispersed from above, these aren't new pieces, I don't think. And if they suddenly are that would be at considerable expense. But... why would authorities suddenly be showing up? Routine checks... orchestrated? Hmmmm...
We've been seeing chickens raised in CAFO's for some years now... why suddenly would there be a great concern about us eating them?
In the context of this conversation to make food supply scarce. In the context of a larger conversation animals raised crammed together are generally unhealthy and sometimes pharmaceuticals are used to keep them 'healthy'. So they are not a healthy food choice for humans.
Hmmm, indeed.
I'll ask around here when I have the opportunity
I liked your comment, which seems an odd thing to do. There should be a in solidarity fist!
Yeah I'm aware.
There are a lot of small farms around me. And people growing their own.
Maybe we should force feed the bad actors a little fake meat sprinkled with a super delicious glyphosate sauce?!?!
I agree.