40 years a researcher, consultant and lecturer on the health and environmental effects of electromagnetic radiation, Arthur wrote The Invisible Rainbow.
If you listen beyond the 20 minute introduction you will hear where Arthur Firstenberg and I differ in our beliefs.
The Q&A is driving me nuts! They are asking him to comment outside of his remit on issues that he does not specialise in. His opinion about fossil fuels and the existence of viruses is excruciating.
😆Just jumped out at the hour mark where that starts to check the comments. He's definitely on the money on the waves though and how the past 3 years have us trapped to mobiles now if we want to keep our jobs, that will require some untangling
I had to jump in and out of that convo a few times..... the panellists were not really getting the point, were going off topic and were asking stupid questions. I had to take a break before I punched my screen!
For anyone is questioning the ability of EMF to cause viral outbreaks, you must read The Invisible Rainbow. Our bodies are electric in nature, therefore any other electrical variable will impact them.
I don't believe in the existence of viruses. I think they are exosomes, produced by cells which are no longer viable due to age or suffering contamination. I do believe in the existence of parasites and those may be encouraged to proliferate if they are stimulated by certain frequencies. Likewise, they can be killed by certain frequencies too (Rife).
I understand the theory, I think, however, I am on the board of our county's land conservancy and the 1 thousand plus acres of protected lands we manage are thriving better than I've ever seen. Pollinators in droves. The extra CO2 humans have pumped into the atmosphere has everything growing tall and vibrant. The reality I see on the ground is what makes me skeptical whenever I hear doom and gloom from the any source. The biggest environmental threat we face, coming from an old school environmentalist, is the covering of our lands with wind turbines and solar fields - in my humble opinion. We can analyze and warn people about the hazards of cell phone use, which I'm convinced do exist, but we are barking up a tree if we think anyone is going to give them up at this stage of the game. We will have to wait and see I suppose. I for one will not live in fear - I accept the fact that all living things will die, even me, and if humans wipe themselves out, which I've no doubt we will, so be it. The mushrooms and cockroaches will likely survive and no one will be around to bitch about it.
I’ve been on his email list for a while now. His research on 5G and EMF’s is invaluable. But he recently wrote a long piece trying to debunk chemtrails and how it hurts the anti 5G movement to believe in them. He seems to be missing the forest for the trees with his focus on EMF’s, not realizing it’s all connected. He kinda lost me with that one...
Did you notice during the Q&A session the panelists drew him onto subjects that are not related to his introduction? I thought that they were trying to discredit him by exposing that he has opinions culled from MSM rather than deep study.
As for chemtrails, I think Arthur would benefit from visiting this site:
https://climateviewer.com/ where Jim Lee explains that we are not being sprayed as such..... but that the filth causing man-made clouds comes from incompletely combusted jet fuel that has been increasingly contaminated with nano particulates of metals.
I started to listen. I don't doubt and will pay attention, but Jim is so reactive in his language. I can understand the why of it, but it's all so tiresome.
He has reached the end of his tether. He has put up with years of nonsense from Dane. I realise you do not know the back story but a decade ago Dane Wiggington systematically drove a lot of good researchers off the internet, one way or another. Jim mentions them and I remember them with fondness. (Max Bliss, Matt Landman, Patrick Roddy and WeatherWar101) https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4547923/user-clip-patrick-roddy-max-bliss
Jim is right about Dane. He discredits the entire anti-geo-engineering community with his divisiveness and does not admit that he has claimed Jim's work as his own.
I am just exceedingly tired of the manipulations of 'man' and the 'reactivity' as well. I understand it well, very personally. (and unfortunately recently too) It's all power grabbing bullshit and such a distraction from life.
I understand he's shook up just didn't want to go there.
I saw two trails recently on odd paths that crisscrossed each other. Very unusual for it. I watch on that expanded and bled out on the sides, like watercolor on wet paper. Then it shifted and got more dense as it expanded. It was very odd.
We have had almost constant rain since the end of June! Thick grey clouds or horizon to horizon white-out.
It is the worst summer I have ever experienced.... One of my neighbour's established bushes has upped and died suddenly but we cannot figure out why. Few birds and virtually no insects.
Thank you Frances Leader. I followed Arthur Firstenberg for many years. His opinions regarding electromagnetic devices and their effects on biological health is backed by over 70 years of research and peer reviewed study. Few persons are aware of the level of research that address the issues. If 10,000 electromagnetic/health related studies fail to convince fools and skeptics, how many more will be required?
I think that the crucial issue is not the quantity of studies proving the negative effect of EMFs. I think that those studies are blacklisted or buried or even inaccessible via most search engines. People who raise concerns are deplatformed and censored.
This happened to me from Jan 2017, when I noticed a sudden drop in attention on social media. Friends told me that they ceased to receive notifications of my posts and later, I was banned from Twatter, Farcebook and Discord because I would not stop raising this taboo subject!
Yes. I resemble that remark... I've been ridiculed, laughed at, censored, and rejected by family members due to views on electromagnetic health issues. I just keep on keeping on...
This technology represents Trillions of dollars of investment and augmentation per year. It ain't easy to kill off an entire planet... Get our newest cellular binky - here. >>> https://www.consumercellular.com/ Buy one or two for your kids!!! Invest Today!!!
I’ve no doubt cell phone radiation is an issue. He lost me, I must say, when he blamed every malady of the environmental and human condition on it. There is sooo much more to it. Diabetes can be reversed as can heart disease. Both are directly caused by insulin resistance due to our dramatic increase in consumption of sugars, toxic glyphosate laden grains and toxic seed oils. I coach people who are in the process of this reversal and it works. It wouldn’t if cell phones were the cause. I believe they are a factor but the body is a miraculous machine. Ask my 93 year old life king carnivore father. Still golf’s and walks at least a mile a day. Reads constantly and has had cell phones since they were invented. Also Wi-Fi. Old techie. Maybe it’s due to his barefoot gardening since I was a kid. He’s big on the grounding theory. Don’t know but I do know we have bigger fish to fry and our cell phones are the best way to communicate and watch what the elites are up too.
Hello Kurt Taylor: I think you're missing the point(s) Mr. Firstenberg is attempting to iterate. I've been aware of electromagnetic interference into biological health for over 35 years, so hardly novice in terms of research... My sensitivity to electromagnetism dates back even further. Congratulations to your fathers health. The number of persons who can make such boasts are declining all over the world. Therein lies the rub...
Whilst environmental toxins such as the use of glyphosate and other pesticides are factors, electromagnetic exposures work in a synergistic relationship to other causal effects.
Electromagnetic broadcast IS destroying every living creature on the planet, period. Let's quit equivocating about the "situation". It is time to rid ourselves of these unnecessary devices, before these devices rid the planet of US...
Your father was already a fully developed adult before cell phones were even thought of.... His barefoot gardening may well be a terrific way for him to ground himself.
What of the younger generations who never had the chance to develop without the interference of unnatural electromagnetic radiation?
I did not hear Arthur Firstenberg blame 'every malady of the environmental and human condition on it' - that would have been very foolish. However, EMF pollution does weaken our health and leave us vulnerable to disease, which in turn manifests itself differently in each body depending upon our personal weaknesses.
For me this IS the biggest fish to fry. Without EMFs and satellites the Internet of Things is impossible. So is the planned Internet of Bodies!
We ARE watching what the predators (NOT ELITES) are up to....... THEY ARE BEHIND THIS TECH.
🤣😂 I was watching their faces when Arthur was speaking.... they weren't listening really. He was really patient with them when they proved that they hadn't heard a word. 🤣😂
My son is a bit of a computer geek and we have an electrosmog meter with which he checks our ethernet connections. He says that, if your assertions were true, the CPU transmission would override the wifi signal and therefore the router would not work.
My son is working (from home) on a coding contract atm. His man-cave is like Silicon Valley and everything is hard-wired. Of course he has checked each device for EMFs.
I am not going to suggest that he comes to this thread to argue with you because he is too busy. He checks our electrosmog all the time. He also has a multi-meter with which he convinced me that the grounding device he built for under my desk actually works.
Now I know how sure you always are of your facts. BUT so is he. I do not wish to become an interface between two equally assertive egg heads, thanks all the same.
I refer you to the pinned comment and other conversations in the comments. I would point out that he did not poison himself. He had root canal work done when he was young. Calling him names is a little beneath your usual standards.
If you listen beyond the 20 minute introduction you will hear where Arthur Firstenberg and I differ in our beliefs.
The Q&A is driving me nuts! They are asking him to comment outside of his remit on issues that he does not specialise in. His opinion about fossil fuels and the existence of viruses is excruciating.
Agree, was a bit frustrating there...
😆Just jumped out at the hour mark where that starts to check the comments. He's definitely on the money on the waves though and how the past 3 years have us trapped to mobiles now if we want to keep our jobs, that will require some untangling
I had to jump in and out of that convo a few times..... the panellists were not really getting the point, were going off topic and were asking stupid questions. I had to take a break before I punched my screen!
Maybe you could fire him an email to tighten him up on a few things Frances. A proper gaulder thunderbolt like the twitter days😁
What a good idea! I will do that right now! Thanks Arbz! 😉
I left a comment FWIW.
I am such an admirer of his EMF work (Invisible Rainbow) that I am prepared to just pass over his other views.
I have saved the video for later. Thanks for the head up.
I am writing to him with helpful links on some of the issues raised. Be sure to read the comments here, some extra info is hidden in the chat.
Yeah, I love this guy, The Invisible Rainbow is excellent, but... He still thinks there's "viruses."
Well, just shows to go ya, we can't expect EVERYONE to figure out EVERYTHING as fast as WE DO.
;)
Cheers, m'lovely. xo
Thank you Frances, watched the whole thing 😊❤️
For anyone is questioning the ability of EMF to cause viral outbreaks, you must read The Invisible Rainbow. Our bodies are electric in nature, therefore any other electrical variable will impact them.
I don't believe in the existence of viruses. I think they are exosomes, produced by cells which are no longer viable due to age or suffering contamination. I do believe in the existence of parasites and those may be encouraged to proliferate if they are stimulated by certain frequencies. Likewise, they can be killed by certain frequencies too (Rife).
I hear you Frances. I believe viruses don't cause disease, but are poisonous particles that are shed / excreted by our bodies. Does that make sense?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qwC4yP2HiB9q/
I understand the theory, I think, however, I am on the board of our county's land conservancy and the 1 thousand plus acres of protected lands we manage are thriving better than I've ever seen. Pollinators in droves. The extra CO2 humans have pumped into the atmosphere has everything growing tall and vibrant. The reality I see on the ground is what makes me skeptical whenever I hear doom and gloom from the any source. The biggest environmental threat we face, coming from an old school environmentalist, is the covering of our lands with wind turbines and solar fields - in my humble opinion. We can analyze and warn people about the hazards of cell phone use, which I'm convinced do exist, but we are barking up a tree if we think anyone is going to give them up at this stage of the game. We will have to wait and see I suppose. I for one will not live in fear - I accept the fact that all living things will die, even me, and if humans wipe themselves out, which I've no doubt we will, so be it. The mushrooms and cockroaches will likely survive and no one will be around to bitch about it.
Have you seen this?
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/the-black-nob-plan
It is very short but not at all sweet.
Arthur Firstenberg's point is that ALL LIFE will be wiped out, Kurt..... we do not have the luxury of time to 'wait and see'!!!
I’ve been on his email list for a while now. His research on 5G and EMF’s is invaluable. But he recently wrote a long piece trying to debunk chemtrails and how it hurts the anti 5G movement to believe in them. He seems to be missing the forest for the trees with his focus on EMF’s, not realizing it’s all connected. He kinda lost me with that one...
Did you notice during the Q&A session the panelists drew him onto subjects that are not related to his introduction? I thought that they were trying to discredit him by exposing that he has opinions culled from MSM rather than deep study.
As for chemtrails, I think Arthur would benefit from visiting this site:
https://climateviewer.com/ where Jim Lee explains that we are not being sprayed as such..... but that the filth causing man-made clouds comes from incompletely combusted jet fuel that has been increasingly contaminated with nano particulates of metals.
I have just come across Jim Lee's name recently. I was told he discredits Wigington's work. Any thoughts?
He goes further than discrediting Wiggington. He accuses him of plagiarism, gatekeeping and controlling the opposition. Jim does not mince his words:
https://www.youtube.com/live/5DhcXjpC3Ho?si=Eq0x9Ce-ti2bYslu
I started to listen. I don't doubt and will pay attention, but Jim is so reactive in his language. I can understand the why of it, but it's all so tiresome.
He has reached the end of his tether. He has put up with years of nonsense from Dane. I realise you do not know the back story but a decade ago Dane Wiggington systematically drove a lot of good researchers off the internet, one way or another. Jim mentions them and I remember them with fondness. (Max Bliss, Matt Landman, Patrick Roddy and WeatherWar101) https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4547923/user-clip-patrick-roddy-max-bliss
and more recently: https://soundcloud.com/knowledgewithhomage/55-matt-landman-explains-chemtrails-5g-covid-and-how-to-protect-from-electromagnetic-radiation
Jim is right about Dane. He discredits the entire anti-geo-engineering community with his divisiveness and does not admit that he has claimed Jim's work as his own.
I'm hearing you and will hold onto your links.
I am just exceedingly tired of the manipulations of 'man' and the 'reactivity' as well. I understand it well, very personally. (and unfortunately recently too) It's all power grabbing bullshit and such a distraction from life.
I understand he's shook up just didn't want to go there.
Thank you Frances. This is what someone told me, but wasn't open to listening to him. I'll check out your link.
I saw two trails recently on odd paths that crisscrossed each other. Very unusual for it. I watch on that expanded and bled out on the sides, like watercolor on wet paper. Then it shifted and got more dense as it expanded. It was very odd.
We have seen that since 2012 here in UK.
It's also been overcast and raining pretty steadily here, so there has been cloud cover that obscures my view.
We have had almost constant rain since the end of June! Thick grey clouds or horizon to horizon white-out.
It is the worst summer I have ever experienced.... One of my neighbour's established bushes has upped and died suddenly but we cannot figure out why. Few birds and virtually no insects.
Looking forward to jumping into the vid - thanks Frances/Kerryn!
Thank you Frances Leader. I followed Arthur Firstenberg for many years. His opinions regarding electromagnetic devices and their effects on biological health is backed by over 70 years of research and peer reviewed study. Few persons are aware of the level of research that address the issues. If 10,000 electromagnetic/health related studies fail to convince fools and skeptics, how many more will be required?
I think that the crucial issue is not the quantity of studies proving the negative effect of EMFs. I think that those studies are blacklisted or buried or even inaccessible via most search engines. People who raise concerns are deplatformed and censored.
This happened to me from Jan 2017, when I noticed a sudden drop in attention on social media. Friends told me that they ceased to receive notifications of my posts and later, I was banned from Twatter, Farcebook and Discord because I would not stop raising this taboo subject!
Yes. I resemble that remark... I've been ridiculed, laughed at, censored, and rejected by family members due to views on electromagnetic health issues. I just keep on keeping on...
This technology represents Trillions of dollars of investment and augmentation per year. It ain't easy to kill off an entire planet... Get our newest cellular binky - here. >>> https://www.consumercellular.com/ Buy one or two for your kids!!! Invest Today!!!
"A $20 phone plan for a million dollar life"???
Pay up for your speedy million dollar demise!
What a horror!
I’ve no doubt cell phone radiation is an issue. He lost me, I must say, when he blamed every malady of the environmental and human condition on it. There is sooo much more to it. Diabetes can be reversed as can heart disease. Both are directly caused by insulin resistance due to our dramatic increase in consumption of sugars, toxic glyphosate laden grains and toxic seed oils. I coach people who are in the process of this reversal and it works. It wouldn’t if cell phones were the cause. I believe they are a factor but the body is a miraculous machine. Ask my 93 year old life king carnivore father. Still golf’s and walks at least a mile a day. Reads constantly and has had cell phones since they were invented. Also Wi-Fi. Old techie. Maybe it’s due to his barefoot gardening since I was a kid. He’s big on the grounding theory. Don’t know but I do know we have bigger fish to fry and our cell phones are the best way to communicate and watch what the elites are up too.
Hello Kurt Taylor: I think you're missing the point(s) Mr. Firstenberg is attempting to iterate. I've been aware of electromagnetic interference into biological health for over 35 years, so hardly novice in terms of research... My sensitivity to electromagnetism dates back even further. Congratulations to your fathers health. The number of persons who can make such boasts are declining all over the world. Therein lies the rub...
Whilst environmental toxins such as the use of glyphosate and other pesticides are factors, electromagnetic exposures work in a synergistic relationship to other causal effects.
Electromagnetic broadcast IS destroying every living creature on the planet, period. Let's quit equivocating about the "situation". It is time to rid ourselves of these unnecessary devices, before these devices rid the planet of US...
Your father was already a fully developed adult before cell phones were even thought of.... His barefoot gardening may well be a terrific way for him to ground himself.
What of the younger generations who never had the chance to develop without the interference of unnatural electromagnetic radiation?
I did not hear Arthur Firstenberg blame 'every malady of the environmental and human condition on it' - that would have been very foolish. However, EMF pollution does weaken our health and leave us vulnerable to disease, which in turn manifests itself differently in each body depending upon our personal weaknesses.
For me this IS the biggest fish to fry. Without EMFs and satellites the Internet of Things is impossible. So is the planned Internet of Bodies!
We ARE watching what the predators (NOT ELITES) are up to....... THEY ARE BEHIND THIS TECH.
Such a great book !
I'll watch the video tonight. 👍👍
It is torture! 🙄
🤣😂 I was watching their faces when Arthur was speaking.... they weren't listening really. He was really patient with them when they proved that they hadn't heard a word. 🤣😂
My son is a bit of a computer geek and we have an electrosmog meter with which he checks our ethernet connections. He says that, if your assertions were true, the CPU transmission would override the wifi signal and therefore the router would not work.
My son is working (from home) on a coding contract atm. His man-cave is like Silicon Valley and everything is hard-wired. Of course he has checked each device for EMFs.
I am not going to suggest that he comes to this thread to argue with you because he is too busy. He checks our electrosmog all the time. He also has a multi-meter with which he convinced me that the grounding device he built for under my desk actually works.
Now I know how sure you always are of your facts. BUT so is he. I do not wish to become an interface between two equally assertive egg heads, thanks all the same.
Can we leave it please?
Erm. That is not what I said. C'mon man!
He is strictly not to be disturbed when he is coding.
I refer you to the pinned comment and other conversations in the comments. I would point out that he did not poison himself. He had root canal work done when he was young. Calling him names is a little beneath your usual standards.